I am not proposing that the 2nd Amendment be so, I am just pointing out that it may be so, and not by dint of government effort in either direction. Does that sound like a violation of my constitutional “right to keep and bear arms” to you?
[…] 9, 2016 (Mimesis Law) — Ken Womble wrote yesterday that it was time to think about getting rid of the 2nd Amendment. At its most basic level, yes, if someone were to threaten your life, you could potentially eliminate that threat with the “arm” protected by the 2nd Amendment. Ken White is absolutely correct: Amendments to infringe on rights that predate the Constitution itself are a precedent you do not want to set. Having examined the cases of many different places and epochs I’ve come to the conclusion that these things are mostly culturally driven, and have very little to do with gun laws.
Some might argue that the proliferation of guns in America is exactly why we cannot repeal the 2nd Amendment. […] of prosecuting cops who lie about other cops’ killings. “As to armed rebellion, who are we kidding?… It does not matter how many AR-15’s are in public hands, the government will win, win big, and win quickly.”. You need to be lobbying legislators to amend the Constitution, rather than lobbying officials to create laws that disregard it.
Successfully protecting oneself with a gun certainly happens. However, we can all rest assured that we had a supremely more high-minded debate than what was simultaneously taking place over on the Twitter (save for Keith’s compelling contribution. 1) Stricter Gun Control Legislation is an Attack on the 2nd Amendment.
“I would say that it is less of a trust in our government, but rather that through trillions of dollars and immense increases in weapons technology, successful armed rebellion is off the table.”.
But the bundle is there, and the thread holding it all together is thin. Well played, Keith. Are you running for school board Ken? Or going to war against the red states that supply damned near all of your military recruits?
Funny how everyone can use the same claim of entitlement for their own purposes, even when their purposes are diametrically opposed. If less crime is the goal end the war on drugs/not-white-people. The above being the preamble to the Constitution fairly clearly shows that ‘We the People’ granted ourselves rights, not that the government granted us rights. It was impossible to miss how Kamala Harris, like Joe Biden, refused to answer questions about their plans to expand the Supreme Court.
. If John Roberts Isn’t A Conservative, What Is He, Exactly? The resulting civil war will be the dirtiest in history.
P.S.S. The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution protects the individual right to keep and bear arms. Not that overall suicides are reduced, but “reduces gun deaths” sounds a lot better than “drives people to hang themselves.”. I am waiting with baited breath for the next revolution.
How does such a smart guy completely miss the point? At the very least, the big bad wartoys will likely stay in the hands of the big, bad government.
But I’m guessing you’re going to say that was too long ago, now? They made it sound fancy and ordained, but they wrote it. Start with the sense that the election will come down ... Axios is reporting that Attorney General Bill Barr has informed the White House and top Republicans that there will be no report or indictments filed by Connecticut U.S. attorney John Durham prior to the November 3 election. Considering that around 40+ States have their own 2nd Amendment equivalents (Eugene Volokh did the heavy lifting here), at best the “disastrous consequences” would be limited, short of other States following suit. Second, arms are necessary for personal security. They got a lot of things right, and even #2 was right at the time. Jimmy Kimmel Is Sincerely Wrong about Guns, The Passionate Non-Sequiturs of the Gun Debate, FBI Report on Alexandria Debunks Gun-Control Talking Points.
Most of our constitutional amendments establish human rights, like freedom of speech, assembly, due process, voting, etc.
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How did that all powerful US goverment idea work out in Veitnam, And Iraq and Afghanistan? So many lawyers like me fight constantly against infringements on those rights, so the hypocrisy of advocating the total removal of the 2nd is not lost on me. Harris claimed at the VP debate that Abraham Lincoln refused to nominate a candidate for Chief Justice in October 1864 because "Honest Abe ... Upcoming presidential debate host Steve Scully drew attention for a deleted tweet — possibly intended as a direct message — to outspoken anti-Trump figure Anthony Scaramucci asking whether he should “respond” to criticism directed his way by President Trump. Maybe all the polls are wrong and all the news is fake.
Unfortunately, however, it’s very common to see the requirements of our Constitution being completely disregarded — even by our elected officials. I’m not saying I’m right.
You can leave comments for this post at the new site, faultlines.us. First, the right to bear arms was meant to ensure that the people had the ability to fight back against a tyrannical government (or in fact a perfectly fine government, as there is no line in the Constitution or elsewhere that delineates when a people may or may not rise up in revolution). The real problem I have with your argument is that it’s based on a Government acting appropriately and with proper restraint & fealty to the Constitution (and other rights).
Need coffee? http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/trump-immigration-ban-it-could-happen-but-only-if-we-let-it/5350. And that doesn’t even count the violence that will be necessary to get rid of some of the guns we already have. But she also misrepresented history.
In 2016, though, the public has personal use firearms and the government has flying death robots and intercontinental ballistic missiles. We, as a country, decided we needed to arm the hell out of our government to protect us domestically and abroad from all the bogeymen out there. In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Supreme Court affirmed for the first time that the right belongs to individuals, for self-defense in the home, while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbi…
But it is not right now. […] got a point?
Why? Who wants to try being a New Progressive Man after the New Soviet Man experiment went so well. It’s a bold position. And it was Texas. If you have cartoon steam coming out of your ears right now at the suggestion that the 2nd Amendment is a failure, hang with me here. In response, the Right often argues for the benefits of #2A, throwing out statistics such as the fact that gun violence has actually been dropping even though more people have been purchasing firearms, or philosophical arguments such as the idea that people looking to murder masses of people will find a weapon and a way regardless of what the laws are. In late July 2016, Hillary Clinton, in an effort to divert attention from the email scandal that was haunting her presidential bid, directed her campaign to peddle a political narrative that Russia’s suspected hacking and leaking of Democratic Party emails was in ... House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Friday introduced a bill to establish a commission that would rule on the president's fitness for office. 1. And seeing as how even CDLs from New York, like yourself, are not satisfied with simply watering them constutional amendments down, with more buckets of ink from the nine upon high in the search for a more peaceful and less violent society, is the 2nd amendment really the place to start? Nearly half of all murders are gang related.
Even the founders didn’t give a damn if you were happy.
Whenever a gun tragedy happens in the United States, it seems like there are two sides: One that argues against Second Amendment protections, and one that argues for them. You also seem to indicate they have an unfair advantage with their “flying death robots and intercontinental ballistic missiles”, but I don’t see how they can be used within a civilian population that just happens to be housing armed rebels, so short of outright rebellion, I’m trying to understand your conceptualization here.
Although it could be if you regular writers started requiring an adequate probationary period and a vote, before the new writers around here were allowed to patch in, but that is never gonna happen if you keep letting that old curmudgeon subtlety reign you all in with governors on your carburetors and frowning upon even an occasional wheelie now and then the night of, while instead insisting upon tranquility and balance even when making omelets the day after. Either the document has integrity or it doesn’t. Canada and the UK haven’t fallen into despotism, Newark and Mexico haven’t become safe havens. “For those unfamiliar with local history, the Battle of Athens occurred in August 1946 when local citizens, including many military veterans who had recently returned home from World War II, took up arms against local officials accused of voter intimidation and corruption.
Our leaders wrote the Constitution. Banning the ownership of firearms, eliminating legal defensive gun uses, would increase crime by 100%-1000%. Laser-guided munitions? I could be wrong. Which Law Firms Have The Best Brands In Asia?
You are confusing “used a gun” with “fired a gun.” Sometimes using a gun means nothing more than having one on hand. Who?!? The 2nd Amendment is one of those incredibly complex issues. Oh yeah, just a point or two of clarification. I’m not backing off my stance because, on the whole, I think that the modern interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is a bastardized “right” that is the black sheep of our American Constitution and I find the thought of removal appealing.
I find it humorous so many people think an enraged and armed populace wouldn’t stand a shot against the US Military if it came down to it. Get our conservative analysis delivered right to you. I’ve been reading your pieces for a while and you seem to have a passing familiarity with police abuses, so why the short-sighted view on the need for arms by certain members of the populace? It does not matter how many AR-15’s are in public hands, the government will win, win big, and win quickly. Same people who claim this.
Basically, I need a gun because everyone else has one. Again, this argument is not without merit, but it is also, in a way, defeatist. Ken, there’s a reason why gun control advocates use the term “gun deaths” rather than looking at violent crime in general or even firearm homicide in particular. I think you just won the argument by describing the plot to the 1983 Matthew Broderick classic, War Games. And that the mention of houses and papers in the Fourth Amendment implies the right to have both, and to keep them private.
Whoosh. I think a transitional period would be tough, but I predict that on the other end would be a more peaceful, less violent society, as well as much fewer gun deaths. The Anti-Federalists would disagree with you too: They thought the rights keep & train with effective means of self defense, to speak and worship freely, to have privacy in one’s home and affairs, etc., etc., were so important and so certainly inherent to the human condition, that they felt the need of a Bill of Rights explicitly prohibiting Congress from interfering with these rights. But then there is #2. Fault Lines has seen two very thoughtful posts about the Second Amendment, against it by Ken Womble and for it by Josh Kendrick. Either the Constitution has the power to protect our freedoms or it doesn’t. It seems rather on point to your challenge above.
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