And if the narrative of the program was not, Scientology need to be stopped and destroyed which IS the one theyve been using even if not in those words but instead a plea for reformation for the greater good, we might have gotten somewhere in terms of reformation. This is TV were talking about. Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards age 52 of 1098 Teakwood Drive, Greenville, NC died Sunday February 26, 2023. Is that an habit of yours to believe in everything you see presented in a TV show, even when no actual facts are presented? : So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about, .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is :, But somehow I feel that you HAD already seen that part of my reply the first time I posted it, . Your baby girl of 27 years killed herself and you're "at peace" with it 72 hours after she leaves this earth forever? In short, one should realize that physical healing does not take into account the being and the repercussion on the spiritual beingness of the person., The purely physical facts of injuries, illnesses and stresses are themselves incapacitating and do themselves often require physical analysis and treatment by a doctor or nutritionist. Lets put Karen De La Carriere on that list, and we are all set, That specific group of 6, plus their sheeple decided upon a VERY specific narrative since SEVERAL years ago, and since then their specific agenda DOES NOT include reformation AT ALL. Pseudoscientists in Scientology? Friendly hint- dont say the sorts of things that you might criticize or object to others saying. Of course you proved your point. F) Getting the person to list her/his backlogged incomplete cycles of actions, and deciding on completing just one simple thing at a time. Other groups were not the topic. This became more evident after GAT2 when the Survival Rundown was implemented, and most Objectives completions had to either re-do their whole Objectives, or get audited on additional Objective processes for dozens (or even more than a hundred) of hours. VETERAN Obituary H.L. This was not a trap. Ive met Mike and like him just fine though he DID try to get in my way back when he was still in and I was starting to wake up. A memorial service will . Will they reform? Have you ever seen a suicide survivor have a show done about her that blames her for her daughters suicide to millions of people? And btw, I DO study the works of many, many great psychiatrists whom I greatly admire. Tayler clearly suffered from mental illness throughout her life, and never received the treatment she needed. I cant fault you on your logic. Tyler Tweed Obituary Tyler Tweed obituary and the death were widely searched online by the people hearing the death information. Different from that Introspection Rundown, isnt it? They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions. #ScientologyTheAftermath" In fact I flat out refused to do it. Yes. And as to people like my dad, well, Scientology starts as basic self help courses with a strong pop psychology aspect to them. And Im not even past 55 yet! Must be Hurracaine Irma! Its like that organ cant get sick. . But thats obviously not good enough for you. Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. And we all know that the opinion of the majority is the correct one, isnt it? There are MANY viewpoints. I was on staff on technical lines, so I was privy to this kind of information. Butlets go get tattoos so we can feel better about it. Mr. Tweed was born in Greeneville, TN and son of James W. "Buddy" & Nora O. At my org, this acted as a huge invalidation for quite a few individuals who protested about the looong running of processes disregarding any cognitions except the very specific and arbitrary ones decided by DM out of his own misinterpretation of the Tech. They are not really interested in reform and correct justice. She just refers to her as a troubled young woman. But maybe others didnt know the true story of how Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed. A LOT is based on hearsay, which at almost every court of law in the planet would be considered as inadmissible evidence, and for obvious justice reasons. I wanted to go quietly, but they would have none of it. One of the spiritual teachings, which might seem contrary to Rons idea, is to not be too certain at least not in a fixed way. That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. That is pathetic. I agree, but perhaps she can learn the better ways. But shes a Scientologist, so what do we care about that, right? I will look into this in every detail of it to connect a few dots, and to fill the vacuum of lack of enough information with facts instead of assumptions. I dont know where this idea that Scnists dont believe in doctors came from (Leah? No more complex than that really. This has to be one of the most horrific videos I have seen posted by a parent in response to a suicide awareness video. 1 2022 , , : / - , Copyright 2015 2024 rojgarlive.com All Rights Reserved. Sure. Sorry; I got carried away. . If Tayler Tweed was diagnosed with Bipolar, then of course she would be good on programs and bad off them. Read Today's Notices. The only related reference I know of concerns those who have had psychiatric drugs or who have been institutionalized. Oh, but I do feel that it is, Alanzo at least a big portion of it but let me explain myself. About not showing compassion when one former member of the religion (or whatever group for that matter) has suffered a loss or any abuse, regardless if the group in question is guilty of or not of such abuses or losses. But ask MILLIONS of Americans who are into alternative medicine and natural remedies if they will ever consider using any psychotropic drug, and I am sure that the most probable answer from the GREAT majority of them would be, NO, I would not. They know who they are,, and will leave it at that. So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is : The SAME way that THOUSANDS of individuals who have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Scientology think : uncomfortable and against it, and with VALID REASONS. Tyler is a 2016. This is all about protecting David Miscavige and the Church. Getting rid of David Miscavige as Chairman of the Board and having to answer to the US government or lose their tax exemption is. Obituaries. Would you want those teachings to be licensed? Either way, your assertions arent factual. Thank you Lauren for sitting down with Leah and Mike. Ive done a whois search to see who owns the domain and its been made by proxies, which means that whoever runs the website wants to remain private. But of course, the current anti-Scientology narrative used by haters and by uninformed individuals to help their OWN personal agendas, disseminate a false perception brought about by the Media show. But, IMHO, the biggest part of the general upset has been created by misapplication and by a fundamentalistic, fanatical approach to policy and Tech. Do you really know that to say this and to second-guess a mother who lost her daughter suicide? This show wasnt about Kathy Tweed! This is not about leaving the so called church, it is about the stupidity of joining and believing. This show wasnt about Kathy Tweed! Then you have the HCO BULLETIN OF 28 JUNE 1969RA REVISED 26 JULY 1978 RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, HOW TO CASE SUPERVISE DIANETICS FOLDERS which says : Very sick pcs are sent directly to a medico of course.. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. Her family tried to handle and began to disconnect, leaving Tayler very much adrift. Take effective measures to correct such wrongdoings where and when they have occurred. Cuts both ways. And in adults there are clear rights to association which can not be denied. But Lauren hadnt seen Taylor in 10 years. On the broader perspective of exes and whistleblowers who have sufficient experience within the churches or Orgs to know the policies and tech points that motivate and guide the group effort, as well as the counselling and training points that create the graduated indoc into the subject and benefits across the dynamics,,, i find it very curious that a situation is created that these would have the need to go to external and non scn sources in order to get justice or warn others ,,, Its telling me that the wisdom and purpose of the subject matter contained in books and lectures is being sidelined for the purpose of enforcing attitudes and behaviours in a very careless and stupid manner. http://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tad-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/. Not any longer. In the other teaching (Rons too, I would say), Know is where intuition and wisdom lie. I think it is the show that has created this belief that Scientologists dont go to Doctors. The first time was to get a physical and full check up before the Purif. People commit suicide under the care of the best psychiatrists, too, right? Jimmy Carl Richardson. Grief Support Group Schedule . The Horror! Currently, our team is striving hard to know what Tyler Tweeds cause of death was. Fortunately, I was able to take the mother of my daughter off the lines after she has been kept for almost 50 hours!!! 1945 - 2023. Send flowers. Thats tough for me to get past. Are we expected to believe that in the allegedly most powerful country in the world, there is a mighty church who is guilty of many illegalities left and right, but that somehow the mighty USA government is totally incapable of doing anything about it, and for DECADES? COINCIDENTALLY enough, what Ortega, Jeffrey Augustine, Shelton, Aaron Smith-Levin, and Mike Rinder post, are in PERFECT synchronicity about the SAME EXACT subjects. Tyler Tweed Death, Obituary - Tyler Tweed of Marshall, Wisconsin, has reportedly died unexpectedly with loved ones, family and the entire community left heartbroken and in grievance, according to online sharing. As you probably know, thats from the Bible quoting Jesus. This simply makes critics into hysterical ninnies who should continue to be ignored by anyone with legal power and who is serious about reforming scientology. Still, I had multiple prescriptions and two surgeries when I was in CofS. I added them to the post. Very, very accurate description!! Our rate of success? Just like Brock, I think you just hate Scientology and Scientologists, and you want to tear one down, and Cathy Tweed seems like the perfect person for you to victimize. But you are the police officer taking her complaint. This is what we need, being fair and balanced, and showing both sides of the coin while remaining compassionate to all sides. I told you this little story, so that others here understand that not ALL of us were uncompassionate and ignorant of how to REALLY help someone. Ok, got it, and I am sorry for the long comm lag in replying. I dont know about you, but for me, that sounds more like one of those conspiracy theories that people LOVE to hold on to, to ease their boredom. It has all been proven to be a fraudulent business just like Hubbard was proven to be simply insane. And there are drug treatments for depression and other brain illnesses which are sometimes-to-mostly effective, and which do not at all interfere with any spiritual development. He doesnt take responsibility for the fact that it was HIM the one who got them into Scn in the first place, but now he just think of them as brainwashed, mind controlled, imprisoned, and having no free will to decide on their own. That they were independent minds working independently of each other. Marie Billheimer-also in that show- said (it was an extra scene that wasnt used in the main episode) said that shed gone to her grandmas funeral and her folks were right there-and on the flight- and wouldnt say one word to her. It was a crazy scenario indeed! The reason for this is because I am about to . Youll be send back in a plane (if thats how you got there) to your home to go see a licensed medical doctor, get properly treated, and once you are DONE, go back WITH the evidence that you did so. Most debris that were blocking the streets have already been taken care of, and the biggest damage is from 50-75% of the island without electrical power, and cell phones and internet signals either inactive or very poor. I MYSELF had been doing just that until recently, though I didnt do it that much. So how ironic it is that I refused to go to a doctor when the ch-rch insisted that I go. Most Media, are not particularly interested in truth as much as they are interested in what sells and gives ratings. Leah Remini Scientology and the Aftermath, Leah Remini's Scientology and the Aftermath, Scientology Applies to Renew Arrest Warrant for Gerry Armstrong, Interview With L Ron Hubbard's Personal Nurse, The Truth Rundown TampaBay Times Articles, Vanity Fair Article on Katie Holmes, Tom Cruise & Scientology, Scientology and The Death of Kyle Brennan, Chronology of Publications on Scientology. The youngest son of Ethel Mummert and Harve Mummert, Tweed lived all of his life in the Macomb area. They will KICK YOU OUT!! She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? However, cause of death was not disclosed. It is a dangerous brain illness. It says that in order to know you first have to be willing to completely not know, in which case the universe will be open to you. How can he possibly know what is on their minds? She states very clearly that she took her to the University of Oregon where she was examined by 10 different doctors. SCIENTOLOGY IS THE LOW BLOW. She provided financial support while her child chose to try to have a career. Otherwise, you can forget about getting audited. I WAS THERE. Fair enough? But if my honest attempts at correcting anyone doesnt yield good results and sensible reformations, them I am obliged to act according for the greater good. And its ridiculous to expect the church to reform along these lines.. Please, be so kind to exactly quote or present the exact time tap(s) in that 2nd episode of The Aftermath where ANY ACTUAL evidence was presented as to Taylers mother Cathy Tweed having thrown out her daughter or disconnected from her. Leah and Mike heroes??? These same quote were used on Leahs show to make Cathy Tweed appear insane, as well: https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/. I used to think, Well, Mike is a supporter of Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Thought, so he just tries to interfere as little as he can, you know. D) A good nutritional diet that provided all essential nutrients. You do know that Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed about being at peace with it during a phone call he made to her on the day of Taylers funeral, right?. Larry Hale. Obituary Marshall - Tyler S. Tweed, age 24, passed away unexpectedly on Wednesday December 14, 2022, in Iowa. Humans CAN change if only we love them hard enough so as to be able to overcome our own bias (I have a TON myself, haha), lack of sensitiveness and compassion, and our desires for punishment and revenge. I dont think so. She was 27. And its ridiculous to expect the church to reform along these lines. We must become auditors TO THEM if we are to expect any reformations to happen. I realize there are many sides to documentaries, but if all the stuff Leah and Mike say are false, why isnt the church proving them wrong? There are always at least two sides to every story usually many more. However, most Scn watchers do not have the time, resources, or capacity to explore all facets of a Scn-related event. And unfortunately, human misery and tragedy have entertainment value. What we used to do at my Mission/org was to do what we called an A to J Check based on the policy, Policies on Physical Healing, Insanity and Sources of Trouble. In recent times, Tyler Tweeds death was surfed by many individuals. Part of the questionnaire, included questions to locate what was called Illegal PCs as per the ILLEGAL PCS, ACCEPTANCE OF HIGH CRIME BULLETIN PL. Choose a color via Color picker or click the predefined style names! No one organization is to blame for this. For now, we cant expect many resources from Tyler Tweeds family as they are not in the right mood to describe Tyler Tweeds death. Thats just part of the anti-Scientology narrative conveniently created by the anti-Scientology camp to drive home their own personal agendas. Now, it should be clear enough what LRH thought about taking care of an Ill body by BOTH using the proper medical treatment and Assists which could be thought as the religious aspect of it AS EXPECTED from any religion. Sorry that Alanzo spoiled our fun, haha. James Cooper Jr. Tony Lakeith McCowin. Of course is the same! Douglas R. Tweed, 84, passed away Monday, March 20, 2017, at Mayo Clinic Health System in Barron, Wis. But now my concern is with my daughter and her mom. Finally, someone has told the REAL story..the Church of Scientology did NOTHING to help this poor girlit cast her out. And totally based on the Tech as well. I am no expert at Public Relations, but I am no amateur, neither. Even to go so far to say (paraphrase), If the body is sick, force it to dig a ditch. The video from Cathy Tweed reeks of damage control. So, from my own observations, there is AT LEAST a very clear professional relationship among all of them as to a VERY specific and defined anti-Scientology narrative. My own experience had mostly been as a Mission staff that then became a small org. But, lets just face the facts..it was awfully tempting to run with the Tayler story because one of her best Scientology friends was the daughter of Hollywoods own Alex Gibney. But there are always 2 sides of a coin, and in the show only one coin is shown, and usually their stories besides facts, also contain half-truths, generalizations, unsupported assumptions, hearsay, and faulty conclusions. Clearly people go through much worse situations and never commit suicide. Words fall short of expressing our grief for your loss, as we mourn with family and friends for this great loss. 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