Im not much good at skeet. And yes, I do mean guns that I own. 1887 lEVER ACTION HAS A VERY LONG STROKE OF THE LEVER AND TAKES A BIT OF DEXTERITY TO LOAD. Most of the online advice recommended using a Dremel tool for cutting the spring, but I couldnt find mine due to a recent move (its since been located). The Coach Guns stock fits me very well, and because it feels so different from a rifle, its easier for me to not shoot it like a rifle. Fit and finish are nice and consistent with, or a little better than, what I expected for the price point. This is a high-class place so act respectable. Skip to main content. toddcarnes Participant Milan IL Posts: 804 September 6, 2007 at 3:25 am #606030 There are more accurate guns. The TTN is a 12-gauge gun, built on a "10-gauge" frame.. Have compared mine to a friend's old, original 10-gauge, 1878 Colt. I also bought some 12 to 20 GA converters in stainless steel for flexibility. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Strictly for Home defense . In addition to boasting an impressive spec sheet from one of the most reliable firearm makers, Coach Guns are known for their incredibly fast performance. Ponder what weve lost in the gun market afterwards. Youll also need a proper vise, padded jaws, a t-handle for driving the reamer, cutting oil, a bucket to catch the cuttings/oil, etc. Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a73fba975c4e1294af929a4bc20a5919" );document.getElementById("b41c6d486d").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); As part of the multinational firearms conglomerate, The Maryland-based weapons manufacturer specializes in traditionally-build shotguns with up-to-date aesthetics and operation. I don't know of anyone who has had the misfire troubles with Coach Guns, and I know of two that have stood up well to fairly heavy use & hunting over a number of years. Both are late 80's vintage and have been used almost exclusively in CAS (Cowboy Action Shooting) since new. It would be a bad place to find yourself at the other end of those two barrels.Love My Coachman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ji, did you just say chukar hunting on MAUI??!!! TNN has addressed several issues with this gun. That was not readily visible in the other pic. Everyone who looked at it says it works just fine. Quantity: Buy now. Sent back to Stoeger. Its small, its shockproof, and features the new Motion Sensor Technology which immediately turns the sight on after detecting any movement. So I wasnt too concerned about voiding the warranty. If youre in the market for something even cheaper, its your lucky day; oddly enough, there are even solid sight options in the $75 range. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. Price: $479. These iconic American double-barreled shotguns usually feature shorter barrels generally no longer than 24 and were typically chambered either 10 or 12 gauge. by Mescalero Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:19 am, Post For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If you can afford it ($600), you cant go wrong with the legendary Leupold and their DeltaPoint Pro red dot reflex sight. However, hard to find. Besides for ditching the A-grade satin walnut finish for black matte, Stoeger gave outfitted their new Double Defense with 20 ported barrels, single triggers, fixed IC chokes, and two Picatinny rails. $779.00 $699.99. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The Stoeger Coach Gun is very fast to a follow-up shot. In Stock. If take the stock off a Parker or Fox shotgun from 100 years ago, and you look at the lockwork, they look a helluva lot better than what we see in your photo above. Ask Stoeger to replace it with a duel trigger model, you will have no more issues. Yeah, I wouldnt dream of trying to finish it off already mounted on a nicely finished piece of wood. Pretty much every shooter at the match that day pulled me aside and privately told me that I needed to fix that factory safety.. In the late 1960s to early 70s Rossi of Brazil made a similar shotgun with external hammers. by Tommy Reb Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:01 pm, Post One of the reasons why I like Stoeger is because you know exactly what youre getting; Stoeger offers middle-of-the-road firearms for affordable prices. practical for other uses aside from Cowboy Action Shooting: Homeland Security! Would it be possible to put a modified choke in the right barrel so it would shot streight? on just what YOU NEED TO DO. Im short so I always need to adjust LOP anyway. For Coach-lovers looking for an upgrade, I recommend checking out Stoegers Coach Gun Supreme. Ideal for home security or competitive shooting, each potent-punching shotgun features an A-grade satin walnut stock and forend, blued receiver, and 20" barrel. Gonna get one. It was light and fast to mount. Heavy, but in a short barrelled coach gun that's not entirely a BAD thing. On paper, the Stoeger M3000 seems like the perfect affordable semi-auto duck hunting shotgun. My buddy shot it once and said thats it. His technique was awful and the recoil knocked him backwards since he absolutely refuses to lean into any gun shotgun, rifle or hand gun. Go to an auto parts store and get a brake cylinder hone for the Chambers and some valve grinding compound for the mating surfaces. The top latch lever even works under the cocked hammer to allow it to open the action. With these improvements, my shotgun technique at the next match was much smoother than it had been at the previous match. Knowing that many of the faster shooters were using the 1897, I decided that was my first choice. It is a nice fast handling little shotgun but not what I would call a skeet gun. Bringing You Honest, Reliable, and Engaging Firearm News and Reviews. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Thats 90% of the issue. If you bought it new I would talk to Stoeger, though with COVID they may have shutdown their service department. Break action with 2-round capacity; True competition rigs, which have lightened hammers with a different style tang and a trigger polish, and short stroke actions for lever guns, are best performed by a professional. Check to compare The biggest was its stiffness when trying to break it open. Consequently, more and more companies are producing lighter, stronger, and cheaper models. For only $50 more, the Supremes are equipped with better grip checkering, higher grade walnut stocks, and thicker rubber recoil pads sounds like a great deal to me! JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Got a buddy who's on his third because the firing pin on the first barrel has failed on all of them. by M. M. Wright Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:42 am, Post While I can carry shells for both critters in my 870 pump, I cannot control which critter appears first, and thus might have to try to switch ammo with the pump gun. There are cheaper guns. I preferred my A5 clone. $4.69. Once this is understood, the rest is simple for our predicament. I asked around, and broken barrel lugs are a very common problem, along with split stocks. When the action is opened after shooting the grip presses against these hinged bits and presses them rearward. Contact them either via email or private message. I also shortened the trigger sear-blades, and pinned the triggers in proper position, and reshaped the pregnant-looking trigger guard. Ak, o ka poe hilinai aku i Ihova, e ulu hou n ko lkou ikaika; There is a fine line between hobby & obsession! Stoeger is a Beretta company. If you shoot buckshot loads labeled Express Magnum out of a 12 gauge shotgun that weighs slightly more than a bag of sugar (6.5 pounds), you can expect a significant ballistic noogie. This piece isnt intended to be a gun review in the classic sense of a review, especially since there is already a Stoeger Coach Gun review on TTAG. MY COACH GUN IS SIMPLY A SHORT 2-BARREL. JavaScript is disabled. Easy? The Stoeger Coach gun is available in the diminutive 410 gauge and makes a perfect companion to a large gauge Stoeger shotgun. Mine in particular can be opened without removing it from my shoulder; you can then either hold it with the forward hand and spin it until the shells drop, or reach forward and flick them out with your fingertips. I really like Ithica, LeFever etc. As previously suggested. Shop our curated. by Griff Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:02 am, Post It stays in his gun cabinet. I have owned both a Stoeger IGA Uplander, and a USSR made Baikal and they were both very reliable guns that I would not hesitate to recommend. Since getting it back still does it. Now with my trusty 870 pump, with its very rifle-like stock and sights, Im lucky if I complete one double out of three or four. I tried two types of slugs, Federal Reduced Recoil and Remington Sluggers, with similar pattern results. I have a Stoeger Coach Gun. Not too much pressure is needed, you will hear the hammers cock and you are quickly be back into the game. While there are still companies that manufactured 1897 clones, I read conflicting information about the quality of the clones and I didnt want to buy one for competition that would be older than I am. also is there a manual for this gun? Plus, keep in mind that the safety is automatically engaged upon opening the Coachs action. No problems. The matte nickel action and barrels contrast nicely with the dark and figured walnut. But since the powerful shotguns dont have any rubber buttpads, I went with the easier to use single-triggered 20 gauge Coach. Gun Test: 1878 Hartford Coach Gun 12-Gauge Double-Barreled Shotgun With lingering thoughts of Christmas, home and family as they went about their routine chores, the Yanks were caught by surprise when Forrest mounted his attack. I had trouble with it firing both barrels simultaneously..sometimes. No. ATTENTION: Please be aware of online merchants impersonating as direct Stoeger retailers. It takes a real man to cut one up. This is not a recommendation, but it seems like you could use a 7/8 Flex-Hone to slick up the chambers evenly and quickly. by Nate Kiowa Jones Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:49 am, Post As such, they have a remarkable collection of over/unders and side by sides in addition to their pump action and semi-automatics. I wasted no time taking the Silverado into the great Arkansas outdoors for a work-out. Funneling chamber mouths The final step was to make take a spherical grinding stone to the chamber mouth. When the Silverado arrived at my local gun dealer, I swear I thought Stoeger had sent me some promotional T-shirts instead of a shotgun. Especially for a person who is trained, familiar, and competent with such. I proved that sandpaper, toothpaste, and elbow grease can achieve the same effect. You have entered an incorrect email address! Right barrel IC choke. What looks like polymer is just wood and flat black paint. Or, if loading your own, what brand of primers? It still draws curious onlookers, when I slip it out of its travel case.. I trained her to load it, shoot it, and break it down. Double-barreled shotguns are back in style again, and I couldnt be happier. (they can also do inner store transfers if need be) Check Bass Pro / Cabelas / Gander Mountain, or any of the LARGER BIG BOX Sporting goods stores. I started by polishing with fine grit wet/dry sandpaper to get the finish off of the parts. About us; Sell Your Gun parts; Buy Gift Cards; Order Status; Cart; Account; . Although experienced shotgun owners could probably adapt to a double trigger in a matter of hours, they do produce 12 and 20 gauge single-trigger variants. That being said, I did find one product which gives Stoeger a run for their money: Mossbergs Maverick HS12 Thunder Ranch Over/Under shotgun. Obviously, there are better guns for home defense. Still looks great though, very traditional. It is easy to work on, as I have described above. At the same time I was shortening the rod, I was also cutting small amounts off of the spring. by Buck Elliott Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:03 pm, Post Ive got a nickel-finish coach gun supreme Ive been working on (Itll still be awhile before Im shooting any SASS matches though). STOEGER 12-Gauge Coach Gun Out of stock Used Good Sold Out Let us help you find the best options for Hunting Gear Get ready for your next hunting trip with Guns.com. Not anymore . The Stoeger Coach 12 Gauge Break-Action Side by Side Shotgun features break action with 2-round capacity and a short, 12 gauge barrel that is chambered for 2-3/4" and 3" shells. by mergus Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:00 pm, Post Copyright 2019 sassnet.com Thats why youre sitting there with abrasives, polishing down rough machine finishes on a brand new gun. So I decided to subject it to some tests to ferret out its weaknesses, and thus validate my preconceived notions. Century's line of side-by-side shotguns embodies its corporate ethos. Coach guns are used by a lot of beginning cowboy action shooters and some of the better shooters use them at my local competitions. When I got it home, I peeled the Coach Gun out the plastic bags surrounding its three pieces. Although I really liked how the Maverick performed, I dont know if Id choose it over the Stoeger, especially since its almost $100 more. Its always a good day when I learn new stuff. 3. by Ji in Hawaii Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:48 am, Post Ive been looking at the same shotgun. Style * * ** 1/2 Estimated New and Used Values for a Stoeger Industries Coach Gun Values are based on a basic model with no options or colors. Thanks. You could use a slip-on pad if you want to avoid grinding a pad to fit, but they look like crap, IMO. Nevertheless, for only a few dollars more, I cant see why anybody wouldnt just get the Bushnell. Just take into consideration that these are short range firearms with an effective firing range around 30 yards. The TTN goes to the hills with me, on my spring, summer, and early-fall jaunts. Coach guns are used by a lot of beginning cowboy action shooters and some of the better shooters use them at my local competitions. Stoeger cannot/will not repair broken lugs, so they replace the entire gun. by all accounts they seem reasonbaly good for the price, though I'm not sure how you're looking to use these things or if you need something pricier. You're on your own out here. The photo on the left is my chamber mouth as it currently exists and the photo on the right is the chamber mouth of a champion shooters coach gun. When I found out that I was getting a coach gun to review, I had the same reaction that your Uncle Bob does when he finds out you got him new underwear and socks for Christmas . I have never seen a side by side shoot skeet. Really nice, should be at $700. My longtime friend still has one. The Price for a Stoeger Industries Coach Gun has increased in cost by $0.00 in 2023 compared to 2022. Many, many thousands of rounds thru each. This destroyed the gun meaning it had to be replaced under warranty. I gotta get one of these!. But I was still taken by the bonzai tree of it all. Rubber butt pad. The barrels are standard blued as well. While the short barrel was tough to follow through with on fast crossers, it actually swung better at. I own several of them. I can put a slug in the left barrel, and a charge of number 6 shot in the right barrel, ready for any large or small game that might cross my path. Add to Cart. "-Thomas Jefferson. Because of its shortened barrel and intuitive controls, the Stoeger promises fast reloads and even faster pointing and swing. Easy! I still have those two old Stevens I got back in the Shooters World heyday. The longer barrels would be a better hunter. Light and handy; easy to swing on clay birds or move around corners. Considering how many cowboys have broken Stoegers, I asked for a lemon refund. The easiest way is to grip the butt stock as if ready to shoot and position the shotgun receiver so that you can press the hinged parts (making sure that they are positioned in their forward orientation) against a board or bench. Sometimes I use a little fixture to make sure everything is square during the rough sanding. It's great for backyard clay shooting, and plenty of Cowboy Action shooters have picked one up to use in their game. Firing light field loads containing 7.5 shot, the Coach Guns recoil was noticeable, but not unpleasant. I shot that match using the shotgun pretty much straight out of the box, which turned out to be a mistake. for a group of college age young women (aged 18-21) living off campus, or single women in general. Also a potent home security gun, the Coach Gun is chambered for 2-3/4" and 3" shells. Stoeger Shotguns Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme 12 Gauge Shotgun $ 499. I personally prefer the 26" barrel for a double duty bird gun but the 20" coach sounds perfect for strictly home defense. Think angry-as-hell-donkey vs. ornery jackass vs. slightly miffed mule. Either way, these are both exceptional price point shotguns. I traded an old flintlock kit gun to my ex brother inlaw for his never fired coachman nickleplate. You could/should put a good, modern recoil pad on such a short/light gun. The right barrel threw a wider pattern than the left. Even just out of the box it is do-able. O/U shotguns are all over on a skeet range. Removing some of the spring makes it easier (and faster, the real reason) to open the shotgun. Have LTCH to verify . by Griff Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:44 am, Post Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I have a 12 ga. Stoeger coach gun and absolutely love it. Nor, as it turned out, underwear, T-shirts or a pair of socks. You have entered an incorrect email address! Dark-stained Walnut hardwood stock w/checkered forearm & grip. I remember shooting it while standing on a frozen pond and going backwards. . Stoegers parent company isnt Benelli. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. They only have so much time in the factory to tune the gun. There are a couple possible issues (dominant trigger finger, one round firing while the hammer falls on the other causing a force reduction, etc) but if the right trigger doesn't fire on it's own consistently I don't know. This is a job best left to a gunsmith, because while it looks easy, it isnt, and I havent the time to try to explain the process. I found one online for $100 less (plus shipping and FFL fee) and it arrived just in time to use in the next cowboy match. Youll need to grind it to fit the outside profile of your stock. The real key is not to be too aggressive and know the harness of the various parts. I even coach rifle as a sport. Today I was working on a 410 ga and I just sanded and scotch bright the large and small rods of the extractor. As soon as I ground the first atom of material off of one of the parts, my Stoeger was out of warranty. I have one of the Pedersoli La Bohemienne shotguns a beautiful gun.Pedersoli sells the Wyatt Earp short barrel coach gun version which is basically the same gun. The shotgun features an A-grade finished hardwood stock, a double trigger and brass bead sights. One other thing to look at is head space. The Stoeger Cougar is a Beretta 8000 series. I have allways objected for that very reason, which is why I have a hammer double. I know, I know: most side-by-sides break down the same way. Fully functional rabbit ear hammers & double triggers. 9mm Pistol, Federal District Court Judge Orders Illinois to Show Examples of Every Newly-Banned Firearm, Gun Review: Taylors & Company TC9 1873 SA Single Action Revolver. 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