(meaning the Mysterious woman) "victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the women at the party, well victor, maybe i'm missing something heyou call it a Charadetell me what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. :>I thought this film was much less interesting than the competing film. If he were> Ziegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privately> communicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly as> possible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Ziegler> subsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like a> complete fool')? Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage between> Mandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and the> Amanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drug> overdoses. From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Bill> has been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-> vis Mandy and the masked woman. Every woman Bill meets in the film wants him, wants to be with him; Alice The "over the rainbow" remark earlier at Zeigler's party was already a suggestion for Bill to think of his patient who owned "Rainbow Fashions." Being "all a Charade," doesn't mean it was all a dream. This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. > Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. >>>>>>>>>>>> And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? WebEyes Wide Shut (1999) Abigail Good: Mysterious Woman, Masked Party Principal Showing all 3 items Jump to: Quotes (3) Quotes Mysterious Woman : Stop! SoZiegler's principal role in the film and in this scene is as anunscrupulous defender of wealth and power and as a power-brokerintermediary (laying down the Law while also routinely transgressingit), threateningly indicating to Bill just what the rich and powerfulcan do and what they can get away with. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I > know.". Nah, the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. >>on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to >>him. I never siad Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when we study it. In keeping with the filmmaker's quest for perfection, the shoot for Eyes Wide Shut famously rolled on, with the movie holding the record for the longest consecutiveshoot, as filming began in late 1996 and wrapped in mid-1998. The twenty-something woman confirmed she and her partner Leonard are polyamorous. Take another listen. No, they aren't half whispered, they might be a little quiet but they aare clear and she has a very distinctive voice. >>Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >>see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >>together.>, > These last points I've already covered>. Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice? [Some irrelevant pseudo-Buddhist gibberish snipped]. Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. I think the voice would have rung a bell and the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so he was in shock. NG was :>the realization of that potential. People often don't make definitive connections between things at the moment. at the >> ceremony/orgy.>, > Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice?>. As 1999 approached, what little was known about Eyes Wide Shut was almost indecently tantalising. I don't think there were any other dreams, although the redpool table scene always seemed the most dreamlike to me. > not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using > them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. He did not know who she was: she was wearing> a mask. --Napoleon. He had no reason to think Zeigler was at Somerton, till Zeigler tells him. That is what she was" implying that her death> is of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Ziegler> chooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by the> Zieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by his> desire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house> ("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" The movie is based on the 1920's novella Dream Storyand Kubrick developed the project for decades, and once considered a slightly more comedic take with Steve Martin in the lead role. Put on some headphones and listen. Regardless of the different actresses in the credits, what I see is that the woman at the ceremony, who redeems him, apparently the "mysterious woman," has a small freckle/mole on her chest about 2 inches to her left side of center, above her breasts, which I think, can also be seen slightly on the corpse. Can it really compete with Rupert? Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in adepressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethaldrug overdose. He stares down at her but that'sit, and Kubrick tryied in vain to tlel his stories visually so itshould be considerd from a visual perspective. When we see the naked corpse's face from the overhead shot, at first it's hard to tell if it's really Mandy's face, because of the expression and the angle, her combed back hair etc. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it? (Video in comments) : r/Ghostbc Jocelyn Pook and Opening Title Music from Eyes Wide Shut (1999) | walkerhomeschoolblog. ", wrote:> In rec.arts.movies.past-films Harry Bailey . I enjoy the > mystery entirely and will return to it over and over and could watch the > film again and again.>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequently> send a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? >>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>wearingmasks? <<<<<<< patient; no Mandys attend Bill's upmarket surgery.>, Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast.>, > How? He obtains the secret password to a clandestine masked ball, where he has a seductive encounter with a beautiful stranger. Web1-48 of 339 results for "Eyes Wide Shut Mask" RESULTS Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. and> pleading with her to take off her mask? Is that how > you> would describe it? People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The Let's get out of here.You're my witness. How manypayments of $19.99 was that, again?-- "History is a lie agreed upon." It is odd that Bill would remember his patient he hadn't seen in at least a year, owned "Rainbow Fashions?" It's not like > he is going to voice all his thoughts.>>>, >> >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? at the > ceremony/orgy. It is only when Ziegler responds> positively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman in> the morgue?" In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is) on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. (2) With AT&T recently announcing that they will dump almost all of their public pay phones, where can he change? When I did this, at first it seems like a similar, but different face, but then seeing one frame of the bathroom scene from a certain angle, it jumped out at me that it was the same person, but I could be wrong. Are we not acceptingZiegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectivelyinterpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlierevents of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeplysuspect account? Indeed, the film iscentrally concerned with the failure of a 'male-centric' andpatriarchal ideology to deal with female desire; and the narrativethrust of the film revolves around Bill's increasingly hopelessefforts to flee from (but also to copy and avenge) Alice's desire, adesire from which he is completely excluded, just as he is laterexcluded from the desire-space of the power-elite at Somerton. Sakyamuni had taught that simpleminded people of even blind faith are way ahead of these blabbering, eliteist, arrogant intellectuals. The silence of the empty mind, like the silent empty space we see in 2001, is the best path to curing your mania. But he still wasn't sure after reading the news story, or even aftervisiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanationindicated. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. It was in the trailer or a TV spot. ", > I'm sorry, but this has to be said: I'm pretty sure I know what you, > mean,> but the way you're saying it is silly. The most obvious answer is Alice found the mask and left it out as a way to let Bill know she knew something was going on. '<<<<<<<<<<< I think it is clear he was > referring to the Somerton party. (4) With many people using Google maps-gps/satellite views scouring the earth, his Fortress of Solitude could be exposed. Why would he demand that she take off> her mask if this were so? Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). You're coming across as yet another FUCKING TROLL!! As opposed to arborescent: two contrasting concepts central to muchphilosophical debate over the past few decades (see, for instance, thework of philosophers Deleuze and Guattari). <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. The point, however, is that even if all three female'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the samecharacter), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not tomention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world."<<<<<<<<<<. Amazing. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask <<<<<<<<<<<<. To take Tess or Barry Lyndon in the same context is perhaps moreappropriate to various periods stylistically divergent from an intentor device for Picasso to depict women;- a later advancement thatneedn't further qualification than figures posed in gold, as was aliteral premium exacted upon proceeds, so written by one later model,over stipends derived from the estate. and she > replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," > Mandy says, "I know." He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let the> women there know that there was an interloper? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simplybecause of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member ofthe power elite? WebEyes Wide Shut. > the same time, being simple and concrete. WebBrowse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a community of small business-owners. You saw > her volunteer to sacrifice herself so the orgy managers would let Doctor > Cruise go free.>> If the woman in the mask had been the same woman as Mandy, you would have > expected some recognition of that from Doctor Cruise. : I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply > following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface. That is what she was" implying that her deathis of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Zieglerchooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by theZieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by hisdesire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" MYMENU MYMENU Masquerade Mask For Couples >>>>>>>>>If this were really the> case, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to the> masked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" You're coming across as yet another FUCKING TROLL!! But what he was getting at was whether it was > murder and a sacrifice for him, which makes him feel responsible, since it > would not have happened had he not been there. >Apparently word of Bill's> entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. It was a > party nevertheless. If we try to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, etc. Somerton could hardly be > >>>>>> described (and. >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? Rather, he> is beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the masked> woman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her up> close in the morgue. and she replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," Mandy says, "I know." Those critics of EWS must have > been delerious. Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. WebOne of the masked women warns him he is in terrible danger. Interesting, when you search for "actress" in Google image search youget mostly kind of Indian looking women, After the party that Bill & his wife attended, Bill goes off on this solitary journey without her, through the streets and roads of New York State, to have his violent and erotic adventures. (3) With the advent of cyberspace, and just simple disinterest many newspaper companies have gone under. I found them both disappointing. Somerton could hardly be >>>>>> described (andcertainly not by Bill) as a 'party.'<<<<<<<<<<<. And you bring up anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? In a buddhist sutra, Sakyamuni, criticized the compulsive mental masturbators and referred to them as people "counting ganges sands." No, it was just set up that way, as a puzzle, so that there would beendless discussion. It's just idiotic. On Feb 26, 3:27 pm, "Avoid normal situations. The point, however, is that even if all three female> 'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the same> character), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not to> mention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world."<<<<<<<<<<>. "anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? This is the implication of Dream Storytoo - with the movie being quite faithful to the structure of the novella - though Kubrick obviously leaves this moment up to interpretation. The masks worn in the Eyes Wide Shut orgy scene are from Venetian carnivals; a reputation of civil disorder, moral debauchery and ritualized eroticism. I think this feeling of > guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. When Bill goes to the hospital, he asks to see patient Amanda Curren (sp), the name he saw in the newspaper. AmericanCinematographer did some thing on the lighting or something in thismovie when it came out, but David Mullen who used to post here (whenthis place was even worse) could answer like anything. I'm sorry, but this has to be said: I'm pretty sure I know what you mean, but the way you're saying it is silly. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >together. There are many, many readings of the story available, with the movie itself embracing a sort of dream/nightmare logic. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. He had no reason to think Zeigler was at Somerton, > till Zeigler tells him. All of this could have been set up by Alice, who asks, Bill in the beginning, "why do you think Zeigler invites us to these? > slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? If we try > to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries and > much conjecture. > > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> > suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> > connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> > that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> > as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? Even Sk was not perfect in that way-----or was hethere is the mystery. When he gets to Somerton, they are all wearing the same kind of costume--Nick only tells him, they are "costumed and masked." For instance,it's fairly obvious from the start who the Mysterious Woman is. Was she the women at the party?" ANSWER. You saw her volunteer to sacrifice herself so the orgy managers would let Doctor Cruise go free. -- Fred Brooks, I think I saw the "Rhizomatic" for sale on TV Late last night. We could say that even Nick was in on it and the phone call to Nick in the Jazz club was a set up to pique Bill's interest, even letting Bill knows the password. Imay bewrong, but I think Kubrick intended it that way. --And men fancied he was dusted in gold. Perhaps Alice was already attending these rituals and this was a way to gently break in stuffy and repressed Bill to this new found club and part of his initiation. I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, has> it confirmed by someone else (Ziegler)", > Ditto. WebEyes Wide Shut Mask Woman - Etsy Browse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a The 'mystery' is how SHE knows that he is an interloper. Harry, you are calling him a troll for criticizing your manic, vain and pretentious word salad? My extra-fat dictionary yields the following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots fromfrom its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface.". Ha ha hah, ha ha hah! Perhaps the conspiracies surrounding Eyes Wide Shut began when the maker of the film, Stanley Kubrick, died only days after the first viewing of it. ". Poor Clark. Tom Cruise in the Masked Ball ritual scene from Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Eyes Wide Shut with Jocelyn Pook's haunting score filling the temple. You know perfectly well what was meant, Mr Glib Pedant but if youwant to Labour on it, as opposed to labor on it >> [ more stuff snipped ]>> > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> > suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> > connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> > that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> > as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? The masked woman was played by a different actor but is the samecharacter. If this were really thecase, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to themasked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" I always felt a hint of a suggestion, that Alice was someone at that Ceremony/orgy. >> First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he >> was showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom.>, > Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professional> doctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety than> about Mandy's actual wellbeing. Web .
1925 . If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? Now that's out of the way, a brief introduction. So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) thiswould 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? Well thats all true, but of course that was SK making a masterpiece and one of the most amazing films ever made IMO. It's not like he is going to voice all his thoughts. >> The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy all> along. >, but, besides that you're> not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. Lets look at the basic plot of this film. What else could he call it? Nevertheless, those two recollections(one of a fantasy, one of a dream) constitute the very desire whoseexclusion (from the quotidian, commonsensical, 'social reality' of theHarfords' marriage) the film is exploring. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > On Jan 11, 6:50 am, dumb_n00b wrote: > > This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the film. He has written words for Den of Geek, Collider, The Irish Times and Screen Rant over the years, and can discuss anything from the MCU - where Hawkeye is clearly the best character - to the most obscure cult b-movie gem, and his hot takes often require heat resistant gloves to handle. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from> the bathroom, till he happened to see the news story and saw the name> "Amanda," then it started to come together. Simply because we don't really know the extent of the "charade," from the Illuminatii/Secret government etc, OR what SK really had in mind---to blow our mind. Desire is always the desire of theOther our dreams constituring the realisation of desire. >>>>>>>>>>>>And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton people> only learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious of> his manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coat> pocket?<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > So maybe they were all wearing walkie talkies under those masks, what do, > you want me to say?..no, this IS left as a huge mystery. Padraig has been writing about film online since 2012, when a friend asked if he'd like to contribute the occasional review or feature to their site. And of course how did > the mask get on his pillow? > Take another listen. He discovers an underground sexual group and attends one of their meetings -- and quickly discovers that he is in over his head. WebDirected by Stanley Kubrick Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Produced by Music by Jocelyn Pook Cinematography by Larry Smith (lighting reinforced bythe simple observation that you have never actually posted here before[at least under your supplied handle/ID]. But which'party' is Bill referring to? But it is obvious from Kubrick's portrayal of Somerton that thewomen are there purely as sex-workers, are there toservice the inner sanctum of male patriarchy in the ritualized desire-space of the power elite at Somerton. So is Ziegler lying? >>Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >>her voice in his head while looking over the body. I mean hewas filmed only in england, but the photography behind him in thatglove clapping shot is projected or whatever and so that means that hedidn't care that mucha bout switching things around like actresses andstuff, it's about masks anyway the movie is. <<<<<<<<, > In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, > subliminally. When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him atthe orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? Put on some headphones and listen. Not only are they the REAL "anti-intellectuals," they were schizoid as hell and projected it onto the social mess, creating political gibberish, that has NO usefulness to anyone. It's pronounced Paw-rick, not Pad-raig. It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing. Somerton could hardly be> >>>>>> described (and>> certainly not by Bill) as a 'party. The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be confused. Crumb Eye. and she >> replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," >> Mandy says, "I know." Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. He is not exactly voicing his thoughts. Rather, heis beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the maskedwoman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her upclose in the morgue. ), Stalepie writes:"the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. WebChords for Backward Priests, normal version of Masked Ball Eyes wide shut with lyrics. 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