by. Its so good that they had function problems with the shootable examples at Shot Show Media Day,cylinders failed to advance . More than an homage, the checkered walnut scales are so close to the originals that they can be interchanged with many of the older model Pythons. Grips: Walnut Target Stocks Altamont makes some grips for the GP100 that look great, and really class the gun up. Colt said that of all of the guns they had produced, only about 25 had been returned for any mechanical reliability issue. Beauty contest? Now what they need to do is develop a 8-shot 357/38 revolver for competition shooters, like Ruger did with the Super GP100. Kracker, I love me a S&W 686. But how many of those turds floating in swimming pools are actually just Baby Ruth chocolate bars? Overall * * * * * 6 gun makes fast double action follow-up shots feel natural. New-in-box 2020 Pythons, in either barrel length, are being sold for about twice the MSRP. Id be curious which alloys Colt used in the New Python, BTW, if you happen to be talking to Colt and have an opportunity to ask them. The cylinder continues to rotate until the bolt drops into the next cylinder notch assuring proper alignment of the chamber, barrel, and firing pin before the hammer is released. A lot more.and then the Viper. I put in 200 rounds of reloaded .357 Magnum through that new 6 Python. I never had any trigger hang-ups. If you cant trust the US treasure check these days, whom can you trust? , Ive been careful with my money all my life and this is what it gets me. In this case Colt stepped up and made it right. As a person who has worked in very high-end and state of the art modern manufacturing, that ALONE is a huge problem. Without the trigger holding the transfer bar up behind the firing pin there is no way for the hammer to contact the transfer bar or firing pin. Strike one. Finish: Semi-Bright Of course, the Python was the Holy Grail but was always out of reach money-wise. Trigger is smooth as glass. Me, Id be far more interested in the 8 barreled version like the one introduced in 1980. PYTHON USED $3,249.99 The Colt Python is a family of six-round double-action revolvers chambered in .357 Magnum. How is it that Ive never heard of a S&W or Colt sideplate shooting loose in 100 years of production guns before this? We are back to the famed bank-vault lockup of old. I pulled the side plates from each of the new guns I had access to. In 1980 I saw a sidebar ad in one of the gun mags with a photo of the newly available 8 barrel. I put the full 1,000 rounds I originally intended to shoot through two guns through one single 6 gun. Theres an even, not quite mirror quality polish throughout the gun. The Pythons adjustable rear sight is very similar to the original. Not my thing or budget but fwiw American Rifleman gave it a good review too. Is it a consistent weight, or is it somewhere between 7 and 9 and a half pounds? Although it has been gaining traction over the last five years or so, the concept of extracting cannabinoids through heat and pressure is not a new trend. 5 1/2 barrel. Customization * * * * * Stainless steel is not as pretty as blued. The Colt Officer Target pistols, especially in .22 and .32. Putting the Python up against any other brand next with your eyes closed? As I said in my King Cobra review, my dad carried a stainless Python, so the Python wasnt just some other gun to me. Find More at: https://www.patreon.com/GoldenWebb/ Please SUBSCR Show more Shop the GoldenWebb store Cowboy Beach Towel $30.99. Colt has revived an iconic and superb firearm with the 2020 Python. Five bullet diameters between farthest-apart holes in .38 caliber cannot result in a 0.9 group as one of your pictures shows. New-in-box 2020 Pythons, in either barrel length, are being sold for about twice the MSRP. It never failed. I dont understand how thats even possible, and Id probably the be the guy to argue that its not. Good story, but I still have the 4 Python I bought NIB in 1973, works good, lasts a long time. I shot the heck out of one 6 gun, but my friend also allowed me to photograph and measure several other new Pythons that came in. Building on Colt's Snake Gun legacy, the legendary double-action revolver returns in stainless steel in 4.25" and 6" barrel lengths. Colt notes that the rear of the top strap has more steel there than the originals, leading to a stronger revolver. I believe Colt also did some internal work around the hand on the new Pythons fix, muzzle work too. I owned 2 6 originals, never liked them, sold one to a pal for what I paid for it ($160) and sent the other back for a 4 barrel. No contest between a crafted steel revolver and a gun popped out of a mold. I have the 6 inch model. Should it be there on a top shelf gun? How deep have we fallen?! Maybe. Unlike the King Cobra, and more like the original model Pythons, there was no discernible movement of the cylinder during full lock up. When you pull the hammer back, you know this is something special. That would explain the extreme prices they are going for in the resale market. It was sweet, no doubt. The new Pythons didnt need thread locker. These were a very nice .22 target pistol in their day. If they own up to the problem(s) and fix it/them, then theyve done well. This round produced consistent five-round groups of just under 1. Also in keeping with tradition, at twenty-five yards the 2020 Python is unerringly lethal. Great looking revolver! I asked Colt why stainless, and not blue? It hardly moves at all. Ill never forget sliding that Styrofoam out of the plain brown Colt box. Youre looking for a company run by God. Colt released a few different versions, The Hunter, Silhouette, and 10 Pointer in that barrel length. The mainspring is the same V-type as the King Cobra. Oh, and the Official Police? I was unusually emotionally invested in an inanimate object, not for the object itself, but for the memories it evoked. As a gunsmith, I find thread locker in more and more and more places on modern firearms. Colt Pythons manufactured between 1955 and 1969 also feature numeral-based serial numbers. I didnt expect high marks in this category. Steel revolvers like this one are just worth the price. Kinda like the amount of people who say they were at the original Woodstock concert! Hey, Im ordering a couple, but I would not advise you to spend that particular check until it is not only received and deposited, but confirmed to have *cleared*! Man, it was atrocious. No doubt about that. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Any one is free to gamble with their funds as they see fit, isnt AMERICA grand,as for myself Ive gambled way too much to continue with any more colt products. The original model Colt Pythons didnt offer a stainless finish until 1983. Im increasingly puzzled why this crap is there. Shipping cost is $45 and includes shipping insurance to the CONTINENTAL US. Not saying that S&W and Ruger, the two big players in that space, are bad by any means (theyre not!). Colt didnt screw it up. Colt Python 3-Inch Specifications: Caliber: 357 Mag Capacity: 6 round Barrel: 3-inch Overall Length: 8.5-inches Overall Height: 5.5-inches Overall Width: 1.55-inches Barrel Technical: 1:14 LH, 6 Groove Frame: Stainless Steel Finish: Semi-bright Grip: Walnut Sights: Rear, adjustable (windage and elevation); Front, red ramped Much like the first edition of the Python, this revolver has a captivating appearance. But then I havent ordered leather for it, yet. I own many guns now, but the Python is the centerpiece of my handgun collection. That was the brushed stainless finish then, to be followed by the Ultimate Stainless finish in 1984. Proved to be very accurate, and fun to shootuntil it wasnt. The Serial Number is under 4000, and it was delivered to my dealer from the distributor one week ago. Love my New Python. Weight: 46 oz. Be advised, I did see a couple of people slowly let the trigger out, and then observe that the cylinder would freeze when they tried to bring it back in. Good shooting! Overall Length: 11.5 in. Description. Double action. After approximately 150 rounds of CCI/Blazer brass case .38 SPL ammo, the cylinder locked up after the first round of a cylinder-load was fired, wouldnt unlock unless I released the cylinder and swung it open. The Python was given the expected Colt blue, with an even finer grade of polish as the last step, to produce the Royal Blue Colt finish. Semi Autos are cheap, practical and suitable. Yup! The recoil itself isnt difficult to manage in either length, the 6 gun just gets back on target faster, with very minimal muzzle rise. 38SPL P. First, let me say I was getting a little worried about Colt. Accuracy. I contacted Colt and asked for an explanation of these failures. Then they released the King Cobra and we could see the writing on the wall. My concern seems to be unfounded. Most buyers will go out and shoot their stainless guns, but many folks would relegate a blued Python to safe queen status like too many do with the Single Action Army. Then, right before I was going to publish, another 6 and a 4.25 Python came in from the Colt marketing department. Nah. The 2020 Python features modern stainless steel alloys and a re . Ah yeah,No. Blue or brushed stainless. I really enjoyed this review. With the possible exception of the Korth guns, the new Python has the finest production trigger on the market right now. My contact there said it was to comply with minimal barrel length restrictions in Canada. It continued in that manner through another 50 rounds or so, certainly didnt self-correct. Please keep us informed like this. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Freaking EXCELLENT question. Pushing is a far more natural action. They continue today through a variety of guns like their iconic Colt Python and M4 Carbines. Across three guns and 1,700 plus rounds, perfect performance. The finish on all of the current Pythons is Colts standard brushed stainless. Screw or pin replacable front sight. My newest handgun is a stainless Ruger. June 30, 2020 By Keith Wood. If theyre still being produced later, with no issues and they can be bought for retail or under, Ill consider one. Reliability * * * * * (TTAG isnt at the top of many major manufacturers Christmas card lists.) If I have this reaction, Im sure Mr. Bad guy has it triple. re: the need for thread locker on modern guns. But it is more utilitarian. The gun wasnt cooperating. It meant a little more than most of the guns I review. I understand that there was some criticism of the frame in the early models. The few local gun shops I asked said they didnt really deal in new Colts. Grips: Walnut Target Stocks And now the firing ping pushes far enough forward to strike primers with the requisite force and distance to detonate primers reliably. Well, the truth is, some stainless steels can be blued. Called them today and couldnt get through, as per usual. Getting to handle those old beauties would be cool. The .002 seemed a little loose. Pepperidge Farms remembers. Ive only had it to the range once. How does the new Python affect the value of the old Pythons? Quintessentially a target revolver, the Colt 2020 Python has pleasingly proven to be incredibly accurate. Well balanced and poised. The cylinder never failed to cycle in single or double action. Same comment for 1903s and A3s. This is not a fault of the gun, but poor training for which I was once also a victim. I tested the end-shake with three different new Pythons and compared them to several old Pythons, including an unfired 4 gun. Reliability? I removed an additional 0.010 inches of material from the surface of the hammer that rests against the receiver and voila! The stock Pythons front sight, in both barrel lengths, includes a red ramp front. The reply was that stainless steel guns are what people will shoot. So one day in November, I picked up the phone and called Colt. Now it looks fantastic and it functions properly. These are some of the most highly-prized guns for collectors. The Python. And no, the Cobra and Kimg Cobra are not that gun. The current 2020 Python is closer to the Ultimate Stainless finish, and far more polished than the base stainless version. Colt Python 2020 Review: The Greatest Revolver of All Time? When I showed the American Rifleman review to the bride, all she had to say was are you buying it?, when I said yes she asked Are you buying 2? Damn shame shes my wife, Id love to marry her. This releases the front sight, which can then be replaced with a different front sight. It deserves all the hype created by its release. I have ordered 2 of the 4.25, hopefully consecutive numbers, though when I might see them in this environment, who can tell. Im tempted by this new one, but its still pretty pricy. Hoping they fix the thing. In a fascinating little bit of arithmetic, he would pay the same amount for the new Python in 2020. I asked Colt why 4.25 and not 4 like the original release. The shooting hand thumb will find the spur with ease and surety. Of all the things that should have been an absolute gimme for them, they couldnt even get the profile right. Both say they fit the Python and SW 686 as well. While Colt limited some options for the new model, they more than made up for it with the improvements. About a month later on December 14th I got a call that the gun was there. Ill pester and pine away for a blued model, but Im overjoyed this new stainless snake gun turned out to be everything I hoped it would. A very nice customer service person told me where my nearest Colt dealer was and said he could have one shipped there for me. Additional shipping cost applies to Alaska and Hawaii. Absolutely not. Width: 1.55 in. I stared at that picture for months deciding that I had to own one of those guns. Like the King Cobra, its a brushed stainless like nobody elses. Colt told me that they assumed the side plates had not been properly tightened from the factory. Theres no doubt the new trigger is better in every way. We are of accord. I kept my Dan Wesson with no regrets. The best way to prevent and slow down transmission is to be well informed about the COVID-19 virus, the disease it causes and how it spreads. Id like to see Colt bring back some variant of a .45 Colt in a double-action, built strongly enough to allow for Ruger-level loads. One day the light goes off in your head and you realize just how good the piece really is. Its not blued, but its the best brushed stainless on the market. Of course, we are all looking forward to the Royal Blue like the one above. The worst shooting group was also an Armscor 158 gr FMJ round. But it is the finest Colt revolver made. The average worker in the US would shell out nine days wages to pay for a Python in 1956. Did some hunting on the net. Its that speed in shooting the full pressure .357 Magnum loads where the Python excels. For my 6"-barrelled Python, the overall length is 11.5." ( 31 customer reviews) Sold: 18. Mark A. Keefe, IV, Editorial Director. On June 2, 1955, the first production Colt Python models left the factory and launched what still remains one of the most iconic double-action revolvers of all time. It never moved under recoil, it just moved so easily I found the lack or resistance made it a little harder to make fine adjustments. In front of the sight, just above the muzzle, there is a very small screw. The key for them is to make it consistently, and to make enough of them to satisfy the market demand. I wanted this to be my best gun, I wanted to love this gun. Great gun I never should have sold. Ill keep it up over the next few days and keep annoying them. You have to know how to shoot the Colt and it isnt for everyone. I do remember being annoyed waiting, but I cant remember how long it took. The question that everyone will ask is, Does the new Python live up to the name? Yes. The single action trigger on that gun measured at 4lbs 8.2oz and the double action measured at 9lb 2.7oz. Advertisement Initially, only a blued finish was offered, but, befitting the gun, it wasn't just any blued finish. Click here to view our other Live Auctions! Former gun slinger, current gun writer. I havent seen a gun yet, but in pictures the hammer also appears slightly smaller, if so, supwifdat? Im just pulling for Colt to make some improvements. Snarky comment aside, thanks for the review. Remember when Colt shafted the civilian market, thinking it could exist on military contracts indefinitely? Yes, the Colt action is powered by a V spring that returns the trigger and the Smith and Wesson features a trigger return spring. Then I taught her to shoot a 4 Python with hot .357 loads around 1968, and she could not miss. Barrel Length: 6 in. Mine is a safe queen, and will remain that way while I beat the snot out of the rugers. Noooo. Given the myriad of advantages of semi-autos in a self-defense situation, yes that makes revolvers obsolescent. The Volcanic was basically a lever action pistol. Colt Python The finest production revolver ever made. Not saying theyll be inexpensive; the Python is definitely a premium wheelgun. Pubgbet , CHOKEDEE88.COM - . In a practical move by Colt, the seemingly odd short-barreled length was set to match Canadian regulations. Of course, if I didnt like it, there would be plenty of other fan boys to sell the guns off to. I shot a few Pythons back in the day, but couldnt afford one myself. They had instead stopped the forward travel right before the last click of the mechanism. Those are some mighty fine looking revolvers. Like the classic Pythons of yesteryear, the 2020 models feature the full-underlug barrel and the ventilated top rib, providing that classic look that wheelgun fans love. They put the hand in a perfect position to both manage recoil as well as get a proper finger position on the trigger. i left vietnam in jan of 72 and at the end of jan i bought my first 6 blue python and still have to today and i can only say the the python is the greatest handgun ive ever had. During all of that shooting 1,700+ rounds I found no issues at all with any of the guns. Screws coming loose on a sideplate above? After all, it was decades before Colt released a stainless version of the originals. But its never bad to have another player, especially when the product is that good, and according to this review, the product *is* that good. Theres always a couple turds in the swimming pool. Lanyard loop. I tested the new Python next to the original Python. Im curious if you still feel this way a year and half later? 6, no Hillary hole and six rounds only. Not even in fancy colors. Serial number range is PY2052XX, and there is already a "U" or "J"marking inside the crane that I remember, so it was supposed to be of the fixed models for the initial issues I believe. Of course, I was wishing I had a rifle. If you have missed out on this auction or are looking for a particular firearmcontact us. So I can forgive the differences. Dont care to hear about 10mm. The Colt Python featured a fully adjustable white-outline Accro rear sight and a 1/8-inch front ramp with red inset. Offered in two barrel lengths, in 2020 Colt has given the world a 6" and a 4.25" barrel. Re the group: this is why reviewers include the calipers in the picture, so people can see theres no shenanigans. I am completely up front about how big of a fan I am of Colt. Victim blame all you want (like they didnt release the trigger all the way in this review), this release is a mess and the problems were (are?) The new Python has a 5-pound trigger pull, and it isn't clean and crisp. Nano-nit Its caulk, not calk, nless thats a rural Texas thing Im unaware of. Its the best! The full under-lug, combined with those rib vents complete a certain stout elegance. I dont have a heavy bullet mold for the 357. This is a better, more accurate, and better written review than what I have seen at Guns and Ammo or other big gun books. Pretty shameful display so far, especially knowing I could buy a used Ruger with the same problem, dial a number, have it sent in, fixed, and back in my mitts in under two weeks. Colt last week issued an update to clarify some reported questions with their rebooted Python series of .357 Magnum revolvers. It just feels like the trigger wants to be pulled, like the gun wants to be shot. Worth scouring the net for though. This is because they werent actually allowing the trigger to return fully forward. In the above, Justin Baldini, Colt's Director of Marketing,. What you are describing sounds like the exact same defect that I had on a Rossi break-action rifle. 1 selling revolver among FFLs using the services of GunBroker.com in 2020. They were, and are still, fast to draw, fast to fire, and with a competent marksman, sure to strike the intended target. Maybe they can make some money on this and finally afford to pay some college student $500 to design them a decent web site with futuristic features like complete specs and high resolution pictures. Comparatively, semi-autos with effective loadings are a fairly new thing. Of course, the cost of a blued Python would be considerably more. That depends entirely on what you are looking to do. Ive always wanted a 2.5 one and would buy one of the new ones if they offered the option. I have fond memories of my youth shooting several Pythons. Same here. Spent two hours on hold with Colt before I got a living person on the line and they promised an RMA that never came. The python had a lot of hand fitting and polishing, where as every piece on this gun was probably CNC machined. As with the King Cobra review, I cant do better justice to the operation of the transfer bar system than the Colt manual itself. Watch some of the revolver masters, like Patrick Sweeney, and youll see their trigger finger actually slap the inside of the trigger guard. I even own a few Tubberware pistols. I own the first Colt double action .357 Magnum, a New Service with 7.5 inch barrel, several Official Police revolvers, an original Python, the new Python, and I often carry a 1956 Colt Cobra. This isnt just an accurate, good looking gun, its a fun one, too. I didnt lube them again or clean them until I was taking photos. Measured over 10 pulls of two different guns, theres all of 1.3 oz of difference. I'm going to be contacting Colt tomorrow. Now Colt, make more of them. I was already shooting one of the guns, and talked with other folks who were shooting them as well. It isnt like blueing 4140 steel, where you just clean all oil off a polished gun, rinse off the de-greasing bath, and dunk it into the blueing salts for 20+ minutes. Gives real fans an option, at least. I just got mine right before all this lock down stuff. Even the stoutest 158 gr loads are tamed by the Python. JW thanks for a very informative review. There are several guns Id love to see Colt bring back: Colt Woodsman target .22 semi-auto. I am more sad than angry over the outcome. A few years back it was offered to me and the seller set the price. This could be a nice money-maker for them, and they need that right now. Um The double-action revolver predates metallic cartridges. no more light primer strikes. I pulled the hammer back, and slowly squeezed the trigger. I had a fella offer me a straight up trade of a Python for my DW after we shot each others guns at the range. But the ability to interchange the front sights, as well as backwards compatibility with the old Python grips gives this revolver a leg up on the competition. Holsters need to be leather with some carving, basketweave is a good old school look. Finish: Semi-Bright Add to Wish List. Keep blowing the customer service, communication part of the job. There are no clicks to the movement, a continuous turn yields continuous movement of the sight blade. For those that learn the action this is a great revolver, perhaps the greatest Colt ever. 9mm Pistol. We all hoped. The second gun shoots much better but the trigger pull is DA 10lb and the SA is 6lb. A shamelessly pro-Colt and Python review. In either mode the functioning sequence is similar, when the trigger or hammer rotates rearward, the trigger unlocks the bolt from the cylinder, while the trigger lifts the hand to rotate the cylinder clockwise, the trigger also moves the transfer bar up behind the firing pin. Colt brought back the Python in 2020 and it has been consistently selling out since.. for all of those who have to have it now folks to buy them, so they Its going back to Colt. Eventually the initial frenzy will die down, and well see saner street prices for the new Python 2020. And, the DA trigger pull went from 9Lb 8oz to 10lb 8oz, the SA went from5lb8oz to 6lb 10oz.. After a few heated conversations on what I should be happy with and the local gun shop owner going to bat for me, Colt said they would replace the gun. . I second the It was addressed in the article comment. 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