[8], Polley's clients included singer-producer Hank Medress, the rock band Badfinger, musician Al Kooper, singer Lou Christie, Michael Cooper, Charles Calello, Sandy Linzer and Bob Lewis. With their Warner Bros. debut a commercial and critical bust, and yet another album deadline looming, Badfinger returned to the studio in early 1974. Biography [ edit] What are your feelings on the bands original recording of Without You versus the version Harry Nilsson had a giant smash with? He went away and took the tapes; we never did overdubs or anything. What Polley did to those guys is unforgivable. This was all too much for Pete Ham, who quit on the eve of the latest tour. We wanted to be a better band, as good as we could be.. In later years, many fans would name it as Badfingers best album. Wiki: EMI, in return, were allowed to release Beatles compilations, which Brian Epstein had always resisted.. Do you remember what kind of guitar and amp setup you used on that? They were left penniless. THE SHOCKING LIVE TELEVISION SUICIDE OF A NEWS ANCHOR! In 1970, Polley formed a company called Badfinger Enterprises, Inc. as a management arm for the British rock group Badfinger, which had no American representation at the time. Stan Polley is a soulless bastard. Ham drank ten whiskeys, before Evans drove him home at around three AM. With the release of Ass delayed by Polleys wrangling with Apple, Ass and Badfinger ended up being released almost simultaneously, virtually guaranteeing that neither album would find a large audience. I wish the band couldve held itself together. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. While McCartney was insistent that Come and Get It be the lead single to carry the album, he also thought that the Iveys needed a name change. With Gibbins dying in 2005, Minnesota-based Molland is the sole survivor from the original line-up and still performs Badfinger's music. Polley was a slick, charming operator who'd served in the U.S. Army and worked in New York's garment industry, before entering the music business in the mid-'60s. But his involvement would ultimately seal the bands doom. Ham had shown growing signs of mental illness over the past months, with Gibbins remembering Ham burning cigarettes on his hands and arms. Peter William Ham was born on April 27, 1947, the youngest of three siblings, in Swansea, Wales. As the first non-solo act on Apple Records, Badfinger had remarkable chemistry, huge hits on the charts, and theyd be critically acclaimed as natural successors to The Beatles. Co-produced by Mal Evans and Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick, No Dice yielded the massively catchy No Matter What, written and sung by Ham, which became a Top 10 hit in America and Britain, along with harder-edged tunes such as Hams I Cant Take It and the Evans/Molland co-write Better Days.. He was great as a producer. Answerbag wants to provide a service to people looking for answers and a good conversation. As detailed in "Suicide in the Entertainment Industry," by David K. Frasier, the band found financial representation in New York businessman Stan Polley, who netted them a six-figure contract with Warner Records in 1974, but would only give them a grand a month in allowance. I didnt hear a lot about it, really. Please try again later. THE KING OF FUH: BRUTE FORCE MEETS THE BEATLES, AND IN THE END: A LOOK AT THE LAST DAYS OF THE BEATLES. Evans couldnt get over the loss of Pete Ham took his own life by hanging on November 19, 1983. Found more than one record for entered Email, You need to confirm this account before you can sign in. [2], In 1971, Polley was named during US Senate investigation hearings as an intermediary between unnamed crime figures and a New York Supreme Court judge. "But Pete got mad. Molland stirred further controversy by releasing Day After Day, a recording of a 1974 show by Badfingers classic lineup, augmented with posthumous guitar and vocal overdubs and drum samples. We had to all sit down at a table and agree how it was going to be divided, and then we had to get lawyers involved. Scott fantastic read really enjoyed your writing. He made that very clear. So they said to the people at Apple in the U.K., Can you maybe redo the stuff? They didnt like all the songs, and they hated the sound. Include gps location with grave photos where possible. Why MTV Banned Nine Inch Nails From the MTV Movie Awards in 2005, Mother Love Bone and The Tragic Death of Andrew Wood, Pearl Jams Disastrous Fight With Ticketmaster, The Cults Making of Love and She Sells Sanctuary. During Kleins time with the company, Apple Records underwent a huge shift with a lot of employees being fired and being replaced with Kleins own people. You may not upload any more photos to this memorial, This photo was not uploaded because this memorial already has 20 photos, This photo was not uploaded because you have already uploaded 5 photos to this memorial, This photo was not uploaded because this memorial already has 30 photos, This photo was not uploaded because you have already uploaded 15 photos to this memorial. Stanley Herbert Polley (April 7, 1922 - July 20, 2009) was an American entertainment manager and fraudster active in the 1960s and 1970s. When the remaining members had difficulty finding a suitable bassist to replace Griffiths, Evans offered to switch from guitar to bass to widen their options. Pete Ham was born in Townhill, Swansea and made his first guitar in school woodwork class. On July 23, 1968, the Iveys became Apples first non-Beatles singing, with each member also signing contracts with Apples publishing company. The folks at Apple assumed incorrectly that because of their Beatles connections, this would result in every single one of their releases being huge hits, but that wasnt the case. Ive heard this story many times and being a musician as well, I know about struggles and if its too good to be true, it probably isnt. Please ensure you have given Find a Grave permission to access your location in your browser settings. Stanley Herbert Polley (April 7, 1922 July 20, 2009) was an entertainment manager from the 1960s and 1970s. At one point we met a manager by the name Stan Polley. He was very rude, actually, and we didnt like him. The original title the band had come up with was For the Love of Money but was rejected by Warner Brothers. Translation on Find a Grave is an ongoing project. Stan Polley. Stan Polley has been a part of the Celebrity list. I wanted to play guitar music with a harder bite to it.. With no viable path to a serious career, most of Swanseas bands were content to remain semi-professional. Flowers added to the memorial appear on the bottom of the memorial or here on the Flowers tab. We will review the memorials and decide if they should be merged. His clients included rock band Badfinger, musician Al Kooper, singer Lou Christie, singer-producer Hank Medress, arranger Charles Calello, composer Sandy Linzer, WABC disc jockey Bob Lewis, among others. Stan was born on April 7, 1922 in . He encouraged the band to focus on songwriting and Pete Ham took that to heart, demoing tons of original songs using the houses makeshift studio. McCartney was so pleased with the results that he turned the job of recording two more new songs for The Magic Christiana task for which he had originally signed onover to the Iveys. The love and optimism contained in the songs written by Pete Ham and Tom Evans have outlasted the hopelessness and despair that led the bandmates to prematurely end their lives. Stan Polley went on to swindle other people before dying in 2009 at the age of 87. We loved learning about America. And the first band-member to commit suicide, Pete Ham, (age 27, of course), left a note saying, "Stan Polley is a soulless bastard." On the morning of 19 November 1983, after a poor Badfinger come-back attempt, and continued financial problems from Polley, band-member Tom Evans also hung himself. Pete called Stan because he needed some money to buy something for his girlfriend, and he was told that he had no money left. The band fell apart. Manager Stan Polley had negotiated a contract with Warner Bros. for Badfinger, setting up for advances to be paid into an escrow account. He was from Liverpool and we were from Wales. The legal morass crippled Badfinger financially; band leader Pete Ham committed suicide in 1975 leaving behind a note pointing the finger at Polley for his financial ruin. based on information from your browser. He was one of the best slide players ever. Like this story? It wasnt until Come and Get It came out that the perception changed for Badfinger. Success followed, but it was in 1974 after a switch to a US-based manager and the Warner Brothers label that things began going wrong, Molland said. In fact, some referred to the band as, The new Fab Four and they were handpicked by the members of the Beatles themselves. We were driving secondhand cars. The Beatles werent really hanging around or anything. The withdrawal of Wish You Were Here and the non-release of Head First were devastating blows for Badfinger, sapping what little remained of their morale and momentum. Were there tensions within the band at this point? By 1974, we were getting somewhat suspicious about it. PleaseKillMe.com is the home of Please Kill Me: the Uncensored Oral History of Punk. International Wargraves Photography Project, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/72635714/stanley-herbert-polley. The same year, the band released their third record Straight Up, producing two more hits, Day After Day and Baby Blue. By the next January, the band was done.". Answer (1 of 12): If you want to hear three famous songs that have the Beatles sound down cold, give a listen to these excellent Badfinger tunes from the late 60s/early 70s: "Day After Day," "No Matter What" and "Come and Get It." "Day After Day," a Top 5 smash from 1971, was written by Pete Ham. He said it was decided to "write off" the money in the US, because trying to get it would have involved using other band funds for litigation that may have proved "hopeless". New York City, New York, U.S. Died: July 20, 2009 (aged 87) Rancho Mirage, California, U.S. He knew exactly what he wanted as far as rhythm guitar: all straight up-and-down strokes. The extra effort proved worthwhile, and Straight Up, released in December 1971, continued Badfingers success, although some critics expressed reservations about the albums softer, less rocking sound. Polley was placed on probation for five years and ordered by the court to return all missing funds to Brock, although the complainant said the restitution never materialized. This relationship is not possible based on lifespan dates. He was a very good producer in every way.. Ten years after Gibbins passing, short-term keyboardist/guitarist Bob Jackson launched his own U.K.-based Badfinger act to play the British oldies circuit. Oops, we were unable to send the email. By Tuesday or Wednesday of next week, Ill be gone. But I enjoyed it. Stan Polley died of natural causes in California on July 20, 2009. The city was still in the process of rebuilding while Pete was growing up in Swanseas Townhill district, at the time one of the working-class towns roughest areas. From that moment on, I wanted to be a guitar player. Good riddance. "He was very anxious about it. "After that, concerts started selling out, it was like we had a hit record again. He ran off with Badfinger's income, the record company money, leading to 2 band member suicides. In November 1970, the band and Bill Collins, understandably concerned over the disorganization that prevailed at Apple, had handed Badfingers business affairs over to New York-based business manager Stan Polley. Already in his 50s, Collins had played piano in dance bands in the 1940s, and more recently had briefly road-managed the Kinks. THIS IS WHATS COOL! I wanted to play Chuck Berry music; I wanted to play beat music. Phil Spector was in the control room, and now that I remember it, so was George Harrison.. Sometimes I make money, sometimes I don't," he said. American businessman Stan Polley, who had taken over their affairs from original manager, Bill Collins, defrauded the band out of millions, leaving them all but broke. The problems really started when this guy, Stan Polley, got involved. No Dice also featured the heartbreaking Ham/Evans ballad Without You, which would become a Number One smash for Harry Nilssonwho initially thought that it was a Beatles songin 1972, and a worldwide hit for Mariah Carey in 1994. Thanks for your help! He signed the members to various contracts that directed their touring, recording and publishing income into holding companies that he controlled. Contents 1 Biography During the early months of 1975, Ham repeatedly tried in vain to reach Polley via telephone, hoping to get a handle on the bands out-of-control legal situation and the money that he was owed. "We went through hundreds and Badfinger Boogie was suggested. But Polley denied the existence of such a note. Unable to get a hold of the bands manager, Warner filed a lawsuit against Badfinger Enterprises and Stan Polley over the missing funds. I got to make records. Hes an enthusiastic guitarist, but hes nowhere near the likes of the people he interviews. Verify and try again. I think Apple thought it would be a snowball for everyone involved.. He was provided with unaudited accounts that said earnings had been eaten up by expensive US tours. But it didnt take long for the eager young quartets bright prospects to turn unimaginably dark, sending the band into a bleak, bottomless abyss from which Ham and Evans would never escape. Playing guitar was just fantastic.. Collins was insistent that the band sign with Apple Records, which was owned by the Beatles themselves. Badfinger continued its hot streak with 1971s Straight Up, whose production is credited to George Harrison, Todd Rundgren and Geoff Emerick. Those close to him claimed he was loyal and stubborn, still not wanting to drop their management. Pete Ham told the New Musical Express in 1971, There wasnt much promotion done there suddenly wasnt anyone at Apple to work on it.. I dont really know he never really talked to us! Bill Collins, related to classic-Kinks manager Grenville Collins of Robert owes half to Grenville? You are only allowed to leave one flower per day for any given memorial. Apple was facing financial troubles, and as a result, the 1969 release of their album Maybe Tomorrow, which was planned to be put out worldwide, didnt include the United States. Cass convinced the trio to relocate temporarily to Milwaukee, where they lived in poverty for two months while waiting fruitlessly for the proposed tour to materialize. Photos larger than 8Mb will be reduced. I had a 63 Strat, and thats what he used. They evolved from an earlier band formed in 1961 called The Iveys. His clients included rock band Badfinger, musician Al Kooper, and singer Lou Christie. I think thats the reason we got fired, hed recall. Can you come down and play some guitar? So the car came and we went to Johns place; we went into the studio, and there was John. Although Stan Polley may of done many unethcial things during his tenure as manger, Badfinger never had any release go anywhere near the top-forty globally after 1973. "Warner Brothers had given us 600,000 to sign and I enquired (to the management) about having 1,000 for equipment. He was 36. The failure of Maybe Tomorrow in the U.S. and U.K. hit the Iveys hard, and Apples organizational problems created an additional level that frustrated the bands efforts to come up with a new single. Elektra/Asylum called it Badfinger. On the night of April 23, 1975 in the London suburb of Surrey, Ham and Tom Evans had drinks at a local pub, commiserating over their mutual misfortune. The SG was given to us by George Harrison. I heard my music on the radio, and I toured all over. Your account has been locked for 30 minutes due to too many failed sign in attempts. We didnt have any money. What was he like to work with as a producer? Evans aired his frustrations to the magazine, Disc & Music Echo, stating, The business definitely seems to be blocking all that Apple are trying to do, and were the ones suffering for it because were the guinea pigs the first group Apple have launched. The net profit from the corporation totaled about $25,000 while Polleys management fee was $76,000. I will take him with me." News of Ham's death was not widely disseminated at the time, as no public comment was made by The Beatles, Apple Corps Ltd, or Warner Bros. Records. Even Paul McCartney assured the band the song would be a hit, but the single only peaked at No. 6 "Stan Polley is a Soulless Bastard.": Badfinger Singer Hangs Himself In 1974, after a string of hits with The Beatles' Apple Records, the band Badfinger signed with a new label and procured a new manager, Stan Polley. "As soon as I joined, the record came out, it was a big smash hit and it was the last we saw of Paul for years.". Later that morning, his body was cut down by his bandmate Tom Evans. He said he couldnt relate to anybody. Maybe he heard what Harry eventually did, but we just werent that kind of band. There was one guy, [Apple Records press officer] Derek Taylor, who seemed to take an interest, and [Beatles roadie] Mal Evans, who had gotten the band signed, he was involved. Hams daughter Petera was born a month later. Use Next and Previous buttons to navigate, or jump to a slide with the slide dots. I will not be allowed to love and trust everybody. They thought the Iveys had something. To be honest, I almost didnt go to the audition. They soon discovered that, through dubious contractual obligations to Polley, they were completely broke. American bands played really well and could sing their asses off. This is better. Hams note also placed the blame for his death at the feet of the man who had devastated his career, stating, Stan Polley is a soulless bastard. You need a Find a Grave account to continue. By then, theyd grown popular enough to play regular gigs in local youth clubs, ballrooms and pubs, gaining valuable stage experience if not much money. They were really nice, and they wanted to play some beat songs. Polley reminds me of an underground publisher I once worked for. We had two people in the band take their own lives thats a tragedy on a human level. Polley had Badfinger under his control and they would end up signing a new management agreement with him. Allen Klein swiftly renegotiated their EMI contract, obtaining them the highest royalties ever paid to an artist at the time. The Liverpool-born guitarist joined the Welsh/English group, then called the Iveys (which also featured singer-guitarist Pete Ham, singer-bassist Tom Evans and drummer Mike Gibbins), at a most fortuitous time. Nearly 5000 downloads of the song were sold immediately after the shows broadcast, pushing the 40-year-old tune into iTunes Top 20. Bill Collins, a session musician, was impressed with the Iveys performance, and took them under his wing. Pete Hams mood shifted from nave and hopeful to frantic, as Polley was now impossible to get hold of. It was obvious something was wrong. THE TRUTH BEHIND THE BRAWL BETWEEN JOHN LENNON AND CHRIS MONTEZ IN 1963! When he and I sang together, it sounded like Badfinger.. Weve updated the security on the site. On April 24, 1975, Ham's girlfriend, who was pregnant with their daughter at the time, discovered his body hanging in their garage. It was Ham who was musically "streets ahead" and sat in the attic writing before coming down and playing "beautiful songs". By all indications, Badfinger was on top of the world, with substantial commercial momentum, audience goodwill and respect from their peers. Polley pushed the band to work on a new album so he could get his hands on a $350K advance that Warner was owing, but the album was rejected by the label due to pending legal action. We had guitars in our songs! The label was known for being the most artist-friendly label at the time. He was that good. Not everyone was fully convinced though. But it was never given the chance to revive the bands increasingly moribund career. Throughout his career, Polley defrauded a number of clients and associates. He was replaced by Joey Molland. We knew it was a good song, and we enjoyed playing it. At first, Polley seemed like the sort of shrewd, well-connected wheeler-dealer that Badfinger needed to secure its future. P.S. I didnt even have my own amp at the time. I think Pete really liked it. Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of Stanley Polley (72635714)? Tommy wanted it done a certain way, but I wanted it to be done the way we had agreed originally. Salaries and advances to the band members ranged from $5,000 to $8,500 US. Even then, he showed an uncommon dedication, teaching himself the rudiments of guitar. Any other artist he dealt with was srewed over by him as well. "In 1974, I left for America with 700. Im saddened that Badfinger will never carry on till tomorrow. I will take him with me.. Try again later. There was a problem getting your location. We had to think about the future., After some suggestions, Apple chief executive Neil Aspinall thought of Badfinger, after Bad Finger Boogie, which was the working title for The Beatles hit, With A Little Help from My Friends.. The sponsor of a memorial may add an additional. For me, getting into the guitar started when I heard Elvis Presleys Blue Suede Shoes. By the time of its release in 1974, it would be self-titled by default. According to The New York Times, Polley was named during Senate-investigation hearings in 1971 as an intermediary between unnamed crime figures and a New York Supreme Court judge. [Laughs] Im sure. It was eight years later. They played this bombastic version of Without You and we were flabbergasted.". Unable to locate the funds, Warner sued Polley. He's also written several music-related books and liner notes for numerous CD reissues and box sets and has contributed essays and other pieces to other books, including all six editions of The Trouser Press Record Guide. Oops, something didn't work. Did you have any inkling that Pete Ham would commit suicide? "Stan Polley is a soulless bastard. I meet people all the time who know our music. On April 10, 1970, the rock world was shocked to learn that the Beatles had broken up. Stan Polley decided to pounce on the weakness and shop his superstar band around to potential bidders. You need a lawyer or someone you can trust. Molland said he still finds it difficult to understand why Ham took his life. -3.99 -3.07%. . 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All photos uploaded successfully, click on the Done button to see the photos in the gallery. I will take him with me." Lives & fortunes lost In his book, Mantovina discloses how Polley put Badfinger's money into a. On the night of November 18, 1983, Evans had a heated phone argument with Molland about the Apple stalemate. The band would release their seventh studio album, Wish You Were Here in late 1974 which received much critical acclaim, but was abruptly pulled from store shelves by Warner after the label discovered that their $250,000 advance payment to the bands management went missing. By this point, the Iveys hometown had a sizable scene of Beatles-inspired beat groups. I asked him what we were going to do about Stan, and he didnt want to do anything. I met some guys who wanted to put a band together, and I liked them, so we started something up. We could always write songs; we could always play. Badfinger's manager, Stan Polley, put together a contract with Warner Bros. Records in 1972. By Monday morning, the . We all had the same idea in mind. However, there's a chilling connection to the singer's tragic end. The British band Badfinger was on its way to becoming the next Beatles but they got ripped off by a crooked American manager who got rich while the musicians went broke. American bands played really well and could sing their asses off. I listened to Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly. I think we would have gone a long way with that. Desperate and in the throes of depression, Ham hanged himself in his garage in 1975. It is a story with its roots in Swansea and Liverpool involving The Beatles, a love song and a tragedy. Did you know the band when they were the Iveys? Petes heirs had to be involved, too. All photos appear on this tab and here you can update the sort order of photos on memorials you manage. Jenkins replacement was Tom Evans, born in Liverpool on June 5, 1947. Stanley Herbert Polley(April 7, 1922 - July 20, 2009) was an entertainment manager from the 1960s and 1970s. It was about 10 oclock at night and John looked like he just got out of bed. In the early hours of April 24, 1975, 27-year-old Pete Ham hanged himself in his garage recording studio. Speaking to BBC's Week In Week Out programme in 1987, the band's solicitor Tim Douglas-Jones said no money from the US was ever recovered. Average Age & Life Expectancy Polley was born on April 7, 1922 in New York City. Polley had gained a positive reputation with musician clients. "I will not be allowed to love and trust everybody. We had a bit of a lowbrow sense of humor. Polley was placed on probation for five years and ordered by the court to return all missing funds to Brock, although the complainant said the restitution never materialized. [3], The following year, in 1972, Polley negotiated a record contract with Warner Bros. Records for Badfinger, which called for advances to be paid into an escrow account. PolleyBadfinger EnterprisesInc.Stan PosesPolley A financial statement prepared by Polleys accountants from December of 1970 to October 31, 1971 showed Polleys income from the band. Who knows what drives people to do such a thing? We were changing our sound a bit more at this time. Evans protests would go unheard by the public until 2000, when demand from fans resulted in an early rough mix of Head First being released. He sat in the studio and drank a lot of brandy. We didnt do big versions of things; we wanted to be a rock band. Bob Jackson, ex of progressive group Ross and John Entwistle's . A system error has occurred. People say things like the saddest story in rock, and I guess they always will, says Molland, who at 72 continues to tour with a band he calls Joey Mollands Badfinger. There is a problem with your email/password. 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