i love to do this business. They are first people you should turn to for advice. I wasn't even there and I can give a play by play because nothing ever changes in Scamway.First off you got sucked in by someone you trust and hope wouldn't steer you wrong or get you involved in something bad.Amway the Cult of Greed where the Great Amway God is worshipped and nothing is more important than the almighty dollar. All still alive and well! In 1973 Don and Nancy lived in White River Junction, Vermont (Population 2286) USA. So, I jumped on the internet on my smart phone and did some research. They are currently Founders Crowns. I once was recruited for Amway, and even signed up for a few months. That reminds me we should run the who cares post again. Over 99% of IBO's don't make money at Amway.Hopefully you found a business with better odds than less than 1%. It's one thing to say show the plan and its another thing to actually find a sucker willing to take a look at it. take steps now to have a golden retirement later. gave me all sorts of shit about it for months on end, how I was a loser and wouldn't amount to crap because I have no dreams and no initiative. They invited me to a "marketing" conference, and told me some very successful "entrepreneurs" would be speaking. Amway should just be a vehicle to provide that additional income to reinvest say into property or other investment opportunities. 2nd Anonymous - you got it right but someone who's been brainwashed by Amway cult leaders will disagree and will respond with canned Amspeak bullshit they've duplicated from an asshole in their Amway upline. Diamonds don't make 150kthose are emeralds. They became broke and our family vacations were no longer vacations but these stupid "Functions". Its a waste of time sharing our stories so others don't get sucked into the scam and go through the same financial and emotional distress. But really? No praying required just think about it no one knows anyone here but we all know people who enjoy they're journey and we all know people that hate they're journey 95% percent of people are seeking solutions 5 percent are excited to join a ranting bunch. Many of them have died and their businesses are now run by others. Ha ha!!!! That rule of course only applies to Ambots. Nothing about it is a scam. haha! Lets see if you paid cash for the house then there wouldnt be a mortgage and impossible for a bank to foreclose. I'm surprised they gave you a "free" drink. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. This list currently numbers now over 2400 and is not exhaustive, with Amway reporting in 2004 that more than 4000 businesses had qualified at Diamond or above. Same income. That's good news for the owners of Amway but how does that affect their lowly paid commissioned salespeople.Ambots also show up here claiming that Amway has made more millionaires than Microsoft or Google of wherever but so far no one's shown up with a list of the millionaires for comparison. Help them do what you did in your first 3 months, go 50/150, then go Fast Track making between $500-1100/month with the fast track bonus and regular business $'s. The best poker players in the world don't play every card they are dealt. Do your research amigosForbes.com #25 on the top 100 listNet-work marketing is a legitimate businessSears, best buy, Apple, Barnes and Nobles, Office Depot, Disney, and a total of 80 others are all partners with this so call scamwayIf Amway is a scam then call the feds because this is the longest scam in the history of the U.S54 years to be exactI suggest you read books on the industry (Network Marketing) which has 52 billion dollars in revenue each yearRobert Kiyosaki wrote a book "The business for the 21st Century" also "School of Business"Other books to get information on the industry "The New Professionals"Donald Trump and Warren Buffet both have NETWORK MARKETING COMPANIES and they have BILLIONS of reasons as to why I stop and listen to them. I can't believe my associates and I came to america illegally and in a few years made a fortune, wow you white people are cocky and just suck at business marketing. Yeah look amway pays me a solid check every year but with that check I became the proud owner of 4 McDonald's franchises, 2 Dennys Dinners, I own 1 Holiday Inn, 5 Gas Stations, and I own 1k shares of Apple, Cerner, Manchester United, and MicroSoft yeah but sure I'm an "amway lying cheat", I try to help people but they're to negative, lazy, with no ambition, but why care about people like you I'm rich and im not even legal, and I don't care if I get deported, ill just get to live in my Columbian Mansion, don't join any of those white people groups join equipo vision (team vision) my name's Theo again have a happy miserable life, working while im 33 and retired! Like I said, I don't make any money off you whatever you do so its no skin off my ass if you want to sign up with Amway and go through financial and emotional distress. Let me ask 1400 out of how many??? See just a few of the former Amway diamonds who have left the business. If one is available please contact me. Why don't you show them the Amway printed literature you have to show all prospects. I hate Amway so much, and my poor mom had to fight against so much of Amway's bullshit lifestyles. Amway's own figures on their literature show only a small fraction of 1% IBO's make money. returns to play new Ranger character. Answer (1 of 4): To quantify, A Diamond is a level in Amway business wherein one has six Platinum organizations or six breakaway groups having a sale of at least 10 Lac rupees/month. That year t. That is funny, what an oxymoron, Amway Diamond with an open mind. LOL! Everything crumbles. Theyd have to be living on credit to bullshit ambots into what is a Diamond lifestyle. Its more likely that everyone in the Amway meeting is broke. It was what I'd believed was success. Peanuts in the greater scheme of things but I guess they all start to add up after awhile into income losses for the kingpins. And the McDonalds franchise owner makes their money on selling lots of product. Maybe you have a decent downline that hasn't seen the light either. Amway people only hate people who are negative. This is gross. Hey Tyler,Why do you need us to email you our 'assumptions and doubts'?Join the open discussion, right here. Thats to Amway and other MLM business, common people can take part of the billion dollar industry of distribution. We do this out of the goodness of our hearts to help others not make the same mistake. Hi Anonymous. Yup to the whiteboard and drawing circles on it. I am enjoying the path of this business because I do not believe that another person can dictate what I am worth, I know it's a investment and if your passion and work ethic is strong you can succeed in the business! Trump has lost more money than most of us will ever see. ft. $725,000. you call people in Amway stupid but the real idiots are the people that listen to you". Thank GOD. After a half hour of talking to him I feel like I already wasted a big chunk of my life I will never get back. First of all Amway/WWDB is not a "get rich quick" scheme. Sick, evil Amway demons! In addition diamonds are unable to requalify so their income crumbles.its just impossible to keep 6 legs going. Usually they're screeching this stuff everywhere they can!And why aren't you already retired? They would be the first to do that since Brad and Julie Duncan went Founders Diamond. One or two and maybe it is a fluke. A diamond pin is finally available. See, contactme, above. Hi Anonymous - the only way ambots can sucker prospects into attending an Amway meeting is by lying that its some other kind of meeting. I'm sure our upline Diamond has a huge hole in his income these past few months after Amway fired our sack of shit Platinum. Anonymous - you better go counsel with the assholes in your Amway upline. Anonymous - your way is the honest way. Robert FitzPatrick again explains why 'MLM/Direct Selling' is a Big Lie. If you come back, take a look at the links on the right side of this page. Neither are Emeralds, Platinums or any IBO who LOVES Amway and LOVES their upline. If youre an IBO then you should talk with your upline about strategies theyre using in your part of the world. I was so enamored with their houses and cars, but also how incredibly douchey and pathetic they all looked. It's like a stinking movie like the Postman by Kevin Kostner that I just can't turn off. It takes a special kind of person to be able to deal with an IBO for a spouse because any form of argument against their god will be ruthlessly destroyed. Don't worry just curious I won't be back to respond. I hope you're happy with the way you've represented your employer. PLEASE EXPLAIN ME THE ROYALTY INCOME OF 4% AND 10%, AND HOW IT COMES AND WILLABLE TO FUTURE FAMILY, PLZ ANY ONE WHO IS GETTING THIS EXPLAIN OR MAIL ME IT IN DETAIL. Your a little hater and your heart is pure evil. So ones diamondships volume is part of another diamondships volume), i would like to know how is it possible. Nobody is coming into any of Theo's four McDonalds franchises to buy a dream (or motivational CD about how you too can own a McDonalds). Your email address will not be published. first there are taxes, and the expenses of running such a business, so that $150 K gets whittled down to 100 PDQ. Anonymous - I think people who are desparate to own their own business but don't have a clue how to get started are open to MLM scams. FUCK OFF!!! The beachfront island resort offers vast ocean views and lively pools and lagoons in a setting for unforgettable adventure. Youre a broke loser you fucking Amway Diamond according to the Amway IBOs in your downline! It always amazed me how in the world can these so called "Diamonds" or "Emeralds" have so much money, yet need to have another job at least? Wonder how the wwdb cult leaders explain how they took 5+ yrs to get a new diamond. And Im sure if you take it seriously, you will be up there with all the diamonds too. Here are five cities with the best passes money can buy. So i just dont see why anyone would bother. Some Amway diamonds make the bulk of their income from speaking at Amway functions. The primary drive of recruitment is fulfilling dreams of insurmountable wealth. After leaving 2 short insulting comments full of typos the 3rd comment was he's a triple executive diamond.The numbers any ambot throws out at you will never add up. How likely is it you can find 1000 people to keep motivated to buy $300 worth of Amway products every month so you can earn commission? Hilarious.You're still angry about failing in Amway? i fell proud my diamond upline is anurag and nidhi agarwal. Or as you put it there's a lying sack of shit born every minute. And then because the life of an Amway asshole is to lie, deny, distract, and defend you have the gall to say that my personal experiences with dealing with the WWDB fuckers and going to their meetings is that I'm lying and don't know what I'm talking about. i am an ibo with 9% level.my best wishes r with u to become diamond..plz tell me how many ibos r required to become silver..?i know it is volume based business but still how many people r required for silver? The only 95% I know of in Amway is that 95% of IBO's quit within 2 years. You can be like the majority of prospects and say you'll be there and just be a no show. They can't live an Amway Diamond millionaire lifestyle on only Amway income. IBOs must be in compliance at all times with the Amway IBO Compensation Plan, Quality Assurance Standards and the IBO Rules of Conduct to keep their invitation to Amway incentive trips. How could it be possible that Diamonds who buy everything with cash and dont take out loans and credit cards could declare bankruptcy. You would not get to hear REAL stories like these in the opens, pase or on CDS. Plus, if they just want to use the products and not do any selling, they can do that too. THAT is why they are so hot on recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. good luck with that one LOL!!!! Amway is vastly different.. At least at Walmart and the other stores you can buy a single protein bar without buying a box of them. The only way to make money in Amway is selling tools like that book. They all yap about freedom and dreams and how you'll be rich in 2 - 5 years even though the ones saying it have been in for a lot longer than that losing their money and pretending everything's going great. It is a nice income for most people. I showed up an hour late and I was shocked to find out that my friend sucked me into an Amway meeting like a blind vortex. Some of the Amway cult leaders are invested in this company.I forgot to warn they'll ask about your dreams. This group is allegedly responsible for helping over 500 distributors reach Diamond status in Amway. You decide whether or not to believe the assholes in your Amway upline or what Amway has in the small print of their own literature. A diamond is constantly on the road so i expect expenses would eat up at least half that. Of course not, the information you are allowed to read is what has been given to you. The $10 commission from Amway isn't enough to save. www.bet.com. At least Anna is working to persuade others NOT to embark on that journey to hell. How much does a diamond make in Amway? DON'T YOU? There's a lot of money lost and lives destroyed.Those motivational books and tapes you mentioned? Those two couples are now in Amway/Quixtar terms "Emeralds and Diamonds". As reported on this site several weeks ago, UK & ROI Amway Diamonds affiliated with IBS, Jerry & Mandy Scriven, Pat & Greta Gregory, and Dave Butler had not been offered renewed contracts with the "new" Amway.Amway itself confirmed this with a posting on the Amway media blog entitled IBS Unplugged.. Jerry and Mandy Scriven have now responded with a well written and well supported letter on . Yes, it's the same fucking plan, that Bob, Steve, Al, and Jim have done the last several nights in a row. But our Diamond distributors, because they bought in bulk, would have been given the same discount as a bookshop. Learn how your comment data is processed. John and Jennie Belle Crowe are Amway legends, having been in the business almost fifty years now. I think in Merchants of Deception, or maybe just by general knowledge, those tapes cost 50 cents to produce so there's lot of money to be made by selling them for $5+ to ambots. Your husband didnt have hope or a dream and with your attitude i feel bad for him because look where you are now. "you are all broke". If he listens to the Amway cult leaders at every meeting the Diamond makes bazillions of dollars in residual income every month or if he reads the small print in the Amway literature they say Diamond makes about 150k. I find it hard to believe that there is a massive number of Amway folks doing that well. See Amway.com/income-disclosure for details. That's from the old days. ;) *ShakingMyHead*Mitchellinspiration.wwdb.bizFeel free to e-mail me with any assumptions and doubts about being an IBO, i would be happy to shatter your falsified assumptions. Because even they know it won't add up. In Amway their teachings are all about what they consider to be traditional families and relationships so you'll freak them out by saying you're investing in gay porno flicks. Show us your picture in Achieve Magazine, Diamond chaser. If you are teamed up with the wrong people then you of course there is the chance of failure- say what you want. I've been recently talked to by my friend about this "be your own boss" type of thing. They want a product. Nothing's for free. Is it the weekend? That's where diamonds get most of their money from.No, Theo is like so many other "fake it til you make it" Ambots who come in to defend their Amway god. Anonymous - that's true. But of course it didn't. A nice racket, isn't it?Any white guy with an Afro must really be weird. Surely they are on the tape list, right? Now why don't you go find somewhere else on the Internet where you can spout off your canned Amspeak bullshit propaganda because around here we've heard all that shit before. I don't want him to get suckered into this, he sounds so passionate about it too.PS. Talk it over with this person. This is typical cult behavior. It is now, of course, but then (if memory serves me right) it had more to do with the year 2000 than the name Amway. If your last name ain't Devos or VanAndel then you don't own an Amway business. I feel for the other unfortunate souls that got hooked into this scam. He's not going out to conferences to give speeches. I guess haters will always hate. People have enough of the Amway bullshit. "It's quite true: De Vos and Andel tried to rein in the criminal bigshots like Britt and Yager and Duncan and Puryear, all of whom were making a fortune on nothing but signing up new IBOs and browbeating them into buying $300 worth of Amway products every month, without even asking those IBOs to sell those products to the public. My emerald makes twice what you made as a diamond. If it worked for you, great! If hate bothers you that much then stay away from Amway the biggest hate mongers out there. Not filling the garage with soap they'll be using for the next 20 years because they can't find any suckers to sell it to. A few years ago I saw an Amway fact sheet that said more than 4000 business had qualifed at Diamond and above. Why to help middleman (Retailer-Whole Sellers-Dealers & Ad people) to be RICH? Ive now added an extension to the Wiki which allows us to easily list these pages and so far we have information (at least the names!) And that's the Amway "trick" at meetings praising a downline for what they bought without noting whether or not they made a profit or not by selling it to a buyer. I was pretty shocked by this book, but all the questions Id been asking myself (but didnt dare voice to my upline) suddenly had answers that made sense. Plus I get extra when I get Amway ambots showing up at my blog to tell me what they think of me like I haven't heard it a million times before from the assholes in our upline!Good luck with your new venture. So most of the sales an "IBO" would have would be to their own downline, as you bully them to meet their PV, though all they end up doing is filling closets and garages with the stuff since they don't have any buyers and can only use so much of the crap a month in self-consuming. I said "well, he does have 12 people already set up for his downline". Thats 30 k. Each. About Amway. It may only be shared or re-used under licence. Why the fuck would I blog about restaurants? You must have only had 6 legs that went platinum, which obviously made you a diamond. You cannot expect to get "rich" overnight. However, most people in the organizations do NOT bother with the 10n retail customer rule. He is still my friend today and his upline Diamond is still living in Porter County and still has his plane, Cars, 1.8 million dollar home and even he admits that the downturn in the economy hurt his business. Now, I personally find it a little farfetched to believe that these Diamonds, having been "angered" by Amway, could have investigated and evaluated all the opportunities out there and decided in the space of only a few days to join Mona Vie. Show the plan..show the plan , show the plan. His house, to make an understatement, was huge. I however agreed to meet his guy or I guess what you would call his upline, according to this blog. "Everything is awesome", Put this into Google Translate and even it shrugged it's shoulders in confusion. We have 54 diamonds and up in north America and thousands globally. Also buy monthly for your "personal assistant" LOL Communikate, around $35 or $40. I've always marveled at how these evangelical "Christians" claim to follow the word of Christ, and yet everything they do is the opposite of those teachings. U get Best Prods. That's why most people don't want anything to do with Amway. The glimmer of hope still exists. Hell Ive never even had a call from a bill collector. The list on AmwayWiki is dynamically generated by articles on AmwayWiki, so if you know of more simply create a new article for the Diamond, with category Diamond, and theyll appear in the list. Absolutely correct! Hi Anonymous. I'm sure they've been texting you frequently since you said good bye with all kinds of Amway slogans about how they're fired up after meeting you and they can tell you're a sharp guy and you're going to go really big in this business, etc. Glad you're enjoying the blog. But from the sound of your post you are still stuck working for someone who you have to answer to. !If you want unbiased look at the Dateline videos done by real reporters interviewing past and current Amway employees. You do realize that Amway's head office reads this blog. Enjoy laid-back luxury on Oahu's sunny western coast in Ko Olina. THis was before the internet mind you. I just wish this existed back in the late 80s and I wouldn't have to watch my parents spend tens of thousands of dollars on a lost dream. Ambots can get angry, but they can't argue. A few years passed and I had started my own business - something that actually created value in this world, when I ran into those sponsors. Anonymous - I'm sure its a gross figure and its not the exact figure on Amway literature but its within a few thousand, I just like to work in round numbers. They buy mansions a fleet of sports cars and fly first class to exotic destinations multiple trips a year and supposedly they pay cash for all of this. Anonymous - Amway is like all other cults who twist religion to suit their purposes. No one is guaranteed 6 figure income just because they join. Yup the life of an Amway Ambot is to lie, deny, distract, defend, and then disappear.Though maybe that was Theo who popped in last week. Diamonds look back and say look at all he people I fucked over to get rich. Do you really want to cancel your registration? The company itself is not the major problem, it is the sales organizations. The book does say that about 1/3 of millionaires acquired their wealth thru a J-O-B and saved and invested, but did mention that many millionaires were also un-extraordinary business owners, such as a pest control company, etc. Amway is all about going into debt. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why theyre getting divorced. I love my new Amway family and especially eqipovision. Amway has been great to me and my family. The only ones who retire are the people who own Amway and their heirs. There may be lies that you can work for a few years and retire. I hissed at her because I belonged to Greenpeace (got my membership in 3rd grade) and the thought of the whole fur coat thing grossed me out, let alone, all these pathetic women clamoring to touch them. $20+ for lip gloss?!!! The real broke losers are fucking Amway assholes. Have you ever taken a job anywhere else where your boss wanted you to fail? of more than 1400 Amway Diamonds and above. People in Amway are prudes The correct answer when asked about your dream is to say its to produce gay porno movies. The site is unable to respond. LOL! You have no time to waste!!!~Osuwariboy. They recognize winning card percentages, cost to play, table volatility, sunk loss, emotions, tendencies of other players, and play their cards accordingly, separating themselves from pride and ego. If lying and scamming people is part of being a Christian then you can see why so many people want no part of it. The dumb fuck ambots don't like the answer they get from the assholes in their Amway upline or the small print on Amway literature and don't like my answer either that Amway Diamonds are broke so they leave a comment bitching about stupid things.When the real stupid thing is staring them back in a mirror. Or tickets to hear a cult leader speak. Amway altered my pre-teen years, and straight-up destroyed my parents marriage back in the early 1990's (my dad was in Amway & my mom refused to be a part of it) I was 10-15yrs old when I bore witness to the fucking Amway lifestyle.I'm 35 now, and I look back and see all the ways Amway brainwashed my dad. If you absolutely must share that here dont name names. They have an income"No they don't. And they will rip you off with the books, tapes and functions. January 6, 2012: Updated information on Carole Holiday here. www.bet.com. I expose the lies that our upline told and what happens at Amway meetings and functions. 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