And then I thought about Waylon [Jennings] and Kris [Kristofferson] and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, They were kind of speaking about ageism. I said, Itd be cool if I had a band, The Highwomen. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. And we met. On August 10, my life was savedthese are some dark days.. GROSS: Lawrence Rothman produced your new album. But she was very good at keeping a lot of secrets. Shes not really a rock & roll kid, for lack of a better term. And I said, OK, well, Ill be the healer. AMANDA SHIRES AND JASON ISBELL: (Singing) Everythings going to be OK. Its going to be all right. I am Terry Gross. Amanda Shires appeared on The Late Late Show to perform her recent song Take It Like a Man. Playing with her band, the singer offered an emotive take on the I was gifted as a girl. Which would I rather have? I had no problem taking direction, but and I had no problem helping when I needed to help, so. Ninety-five percent of study participants who did have an abortion still stood by their decision. And she was doing the bail bonding on the night. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. WebBEHIND THE SCENES with Amanda Shires | Backstage at the Ryman Presented by Nissan | Ryman Auditorium 11,820 views Jan 1, 2019 92 Dislike Share Ryman Auditorium Lets get back to my interview with singer, songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. It was love at first listen. This fight is about more than just abortion. No more? But through the process of making the record and all the things that go with that, the hours and the tedium, it got easier for us to have conversations, not because we were doing the work of addressing the problems, but because we found common ground on something again, which has always been music and words.. And she came over and I showed her. Lets get back to my interview with singer-songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. It goes, (singing) I woke up this morning, and I looked out my door. "Isn't it just like a daughter to make a fool of you? Can you play something that you think kind of epitomizes the style that you learned and fell in love with? And even on the charts, theres one spot usually I think in 2016, there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. And it was much safer for us to sleep in the closet with the TV at the bail bonding place than to be left to her own devices at home. In 2019, she founded a country music supergroup called The Highwomen alongside Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. But I had about seven different album sequences going on. SHIRES: In 2016, I was going on the road. Being from Muscle Shoals is kind of like having a cool tattoo or something., After getting sober, writing and recording the new album felt more natural to me, says Isbell, lighting a cigarette as seagulls caw overhead. This happened to me two and a half weeks before Texas abortion ban went into effect. People forget, Shires says. It sounds like you were about to leave the marriage. And I was thinking about how much the stories matter. He asserted that the band would cancel the concert if any venue refused to agree to their requirements. I believe thats when that that became not an option. photos by @alyssegafkjen If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. SHIRES: I didnt know anything about them. The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time GROSS: Without him asking? Im glad to hear it. And I thought if Im going to get any rest, Im going to have to do something about this. And I save them all and I return to them often I own one of his guitars My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen I really do feel like he did a lot of work for me that I dont have to do. Isbell took a stand, even facing backlash from his fellow artists. I laid hands upon the world. But anyway so I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering. Her study essentially proves that when folks cant have an abortion, it affects their mental health, their economic standing, their overall well-being. Isbells first show after finishing rehab was opening solo for Ryan Adams in Perth, Australia, three days after he got out (two, if you count the international dateline, the day that goes into the vortex). So to give listeners a sense of Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys, listeners who dont know who they are, this is a classic 1940 recording of New San Antonio Rose., (SOUNDBITE OF SONG, NEW SAN ANTONIO ROSE), BOB WILLS AND HIS TEXAS PLAYBOYS: (Singing) Deep within my heart lies a melody, a song of old San Antone (ph) San Antone where in dreams I live with a memory beneath the stars, all alone. And then my mom would drive me down there. I was learning orchestra and classical music in school and privately. What happened between now and then? A moonlit pass that only she would know still hears my broken song of love. The players in the band, they took me seriously as a player, but they also understood that I was a kid.. SHIRES: My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen. How did you decide to say that these songs are really about a bad period of your marriage? When her distinctive vibrato appears on To the Sunset, as a subtle emotive tool or punctuation in her storytelling, it feels like an electrical charge shuddering through the live wire of her voice. And I think they probably had conversations that you would, if you were that close to each other, about that stuff and didnt bring it up. In 2020, The Highwomen won album of the year at the Americana Music Honors & Awards ceremony. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. And I had been internally bleeding for a whole lot of hours. Im your Amanda. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. And then, we did it, sing the song. And I guess when we got to the third album sequence that I had, Jason was like, why isnt Fault Lines on there? And this is basically, like, a country supergroup. Oh, I could have crowed. During the #MeToo moment, much emphasis has been rightly placed on the need for women to guard themselves against the unrestrained appetites of male perpetrators. And a lot of its multilayered, the meaning take it like a man. It was it took Dave Cobb and it took Brandi, and then it took Natalie and Maren Morris. It was Fault Lines.. The South is in need of a lot of help, Shires tells Rolling Stone. So lets do that. People will have to prove that they have been raped. So since they are personal songs, you had to decide to say that. Im Terry Gross. But whatever. The bastards hung me at the Salem gallows hill. And then and the words are amazing and always brought me a smile. And then it was never like, oh, they have to be on a record once I do record them. To see more, visit. And I was really into that. 99.99%. And hes saying, you know, basically that hes going to support her and hes there for her. Shires, an incisive songwriter and solo artist and occasional member of husband Jason Isbells 400 Unit band, has been vocal about protecting a womans right to choose in the past. Since writing that op-ed, I have had reproductive healthcare that some might call an abortion when I was hospitalized in Texas on August 9, 2021, with a ruptured fallopian tube caused by an ectopic pregnancy. And I followed a dress code. GROSS: Your mother earlier in her life worked as a bail bondsman, right? Live Nation also announced a vaccination requirement for employees entering events, venues or offices, which will take effect October 4. Our business and our industry is about uniting people, and vaccines are one of the greatest tools for making sure that everyone can continue to enjoy live music together, CEO Michael Rapino wrote to the companys employees. Boosted and very grateful for it., When a fan asked how his wife Amanda Shires and their daughter are feeling, Isbell answered, Mercy is negative with no symptoms and Amanda didnt come with me on this run, shes negative at home. And one day we wound up in the studio and we cut the song. You may opt-out by, U.S. It's not often in country musicor pop music for that matterin which an artist addresses a very personal and sensitive subject like abortion through a song. Lets get back to my interview with Amanda Shires, a great singer and songwriter who also co-founded the band The Highwomen, which is a kind of all-star country music band. GROSS: Whoa. "I did a parking lot pirouette / I said, 'You're right I'm not done with you yet.'" Lawrence Rothman has been a model of self accepting themselves. And I was reading mine. Snubbing the King: Why Don't Big Stars Want to Perform at Charles' Coronation? The most-watched episode was from April 8th, filmed the day after John Prine He could still leave it dish in the sink, you know? And I remember the first time I sang ever, Leon Rausch had to hold my hand. It felt like maybe wed both leave at the same time. And then she wanted to know if it was real, so she hired a private investigator and all this. Because thats not how I go into songwriting. She has a big conscience, a big heart. We found music, and then being in the Shoals area just gave us an early look at all the places music can take you. Her new album is Take It Like a Man. Then I tried recording it in a couple of other situations, and I just didnt have it right yet. I was like, Thats what I want to do, because you play this song and then you get to improvise you just play what you feel within the chord. (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, HAWK FOR THE DOVE), GROSS: Our digital media producer is Molly Seavy-Nesper. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. And usually that works. And from there, he introduced me to Frankie McWhorter. Ive been around so many people for so long who were. Wills was the father of western swing. Do you think God still sees me, coming out of this twilight sleep? she asks, before the band carries the song out with a powerful extended coda. With vacations lagging and the dangerous delta variant spreading, the United States is averaging more than 100,000 new cases a day for the first time since early February. SHIRES: I dont know that well, I dont know that I was going to leave or that Jason was going to leave. And I know I can take it like a man. Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. And sometimes, you know, you can, like, cup your hands and drink water from them or you could cup your hands and I dont know. SHIRES: (Singing) Im scared to even say the truth. Then I get to the end of the recording process and try to decide what makes the best collection of songs. But I think she probably knew. And when I would write these songs, it was never in my mind, oh, I have to record them. I was playing a music festival, and I noticed that there was a fiddle on stage with Billy Joe. feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows, He then shared his symptoms and expressed his gratitude for getting vaccinated: Lotta sinus drainage type stuff, scratchy in my throat and some muscle aches but no cough or breathing issues fyi. And so I felt in my mind, I felt those things. And the reason I think that my grandmother knew is because also lately, we found out that my moms oldest sister isnt doesnt have the same dad as her, as my granddad. Its you, Brandi Carlile, Natalie Hemby, Maren Morris. And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. Im going to change the subject here. So I think she did a good job. With artists and concert promoters nationwide forced to confront a surging spike in infections and hospitalizations attributed to the spread of the delta variant, Grammy award-winning musician, Jason Isbell, announced Monday that he and his band, the 400 Unit, will require concertgoers to provide proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test to attend all their future shows, whether they are held indoors or outdoors. Jason Isbell, Amanda Shires to Serve as Record Store Days 2023 Ambassadors. Its an often-times divisive topic, and I dont want to bring any hurt to my family by doing something like putting out a song about this topic, but I lost all that fear when I got angry. Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. Im a big, big fan. In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. 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Its a great song, so I thought wed play some of it. So she did daytime job. Theyve ended shows with Neil Youngs Like a Hurricane or Van Morrisons Into the Mystic. Tonight its the Rolling Stones Cant You Hear Me Knocking, and its ecstatic. It could be something you played. I accept it now. However, Rapinos memo notes that Live Nation and artists can only make vaccines a requirement where permitted by law. Artists performing at government-operated venues in states where lawmakers have prohibited vaccine mandates will be prohibited from enforcing such measures. In the first half of the 20th century citizens from every walk of life gathered at the Ryman to enjoy the greatest preachers, entertainers, speakers and politicians of the day. And then, really, while the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made The Highwomen be a thing. Another is a freedom rider who died during the Freedom Rides. And she was like, I had no idea. So what didnt you like about your voice? Her new album is called Take It Like A Man.. GROSS: That sounds really, really awful. And the character you wrote yourself out to be, the flagship all part of my fooling. Here's why. AL.com spoke to Isbell last September about when he decided implementing these COVID restrictions at his shows was the right thing to do, how this stance has affected the relationship with some of his fans, what its like to finally hit the road and play again and what it will take for Alabama to have a change of heart on getting vaccinated. I think she probably knew 100%, but.. Hearing these stories, I think that it makes your backbone stronger. And Lanny Fiel, he would say, youre really, really great at the parts you love. We both know that none of that was keeping, keeping me anyhow. The former Drive-By Truckers newfound sobriety, a recurring topic of discussion (and of his exceptional songwriting), may have cost him some of his sense of adventure, but it has undoubtedly focused his attention on his craft. Shed been learning to play classical music on GROSS: One of the things I love about his music is the way he combined the spiritual and the profane in his songs and the spiritual and, like, anger and resentment and despair. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. People forget that, if you take away access to reproductive healthcare, youre going to be killing moms like me. Maintaining that vigilance and devoting necessary energy and attention to confronting and correcting not only sexual wrongdoing but warped thinking can be all-consuming. Is a chrysalis a butterfly? Thank you for your songs. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. 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