The .22 LR version loses a star, however, for dropping the swappable backstraps of the centerfire models and for the slide catch lever that Im not entirely compatible with. People develop the bad habit of registering their finger on the trigger in the mistaken belief that the little do-hickey is safety.. You never do that. Also rare, and of the handful of examples I've seen, most have been in .40. Again, the solution is to replace the whole assembly. I gotta pay my rent too you know, jerks. Itd be nice if they made a PPQ M1 version, but I doubt thats going to happen. So it would fire, it just wouldn't reset itself to accept the next round. There are only a couple of light scratches on the slide and no sign of rusting or corrosion anywhere at all. I also purchased the thread adapter separately to use a supressor later. Height: 5.4 inches. And Ive often thought that the usual candidates were to blame. In under 1k rds the slide cracked. I havent cleaned or lubed it, though, and its still running like a champ. Uses same mags as PPQ M2, PPQ Q4/Q5/SF. One question to Jeremy please: Did you ever try .22 subsonic ammo and did it work without problems? A very modern and fine looking pistol, it arrives in a black Walther box, complete with the gun, two magazines, three interchangeable backstraps, a speed loader, safety lock, instruction manual, and a test target from Germany showing the gun has been sighted in at 15 yards. The Walther P22 was one of the original semi-auto .22LR handguns and has been satisfying shooters since 2002. I'm 6'0 tall, and weigh 150 lbs. Welcome to /r/pistols! Use as home defense is beyond question useful. I attribute this to many qualities of the pistol: the ergonomics, trigger, and good engineering from Walther. Wrong or defective ammunition: One cause of failure to feed is that either your ammunition is defective or you are using the wrong one. Additionally, the importance of a slide that reliably locks back on empty is a matter of personal opinion for the intended use case of the pistol in question. Neither gun can be rented in our area to try. It is a perfectly fine mechanism. This by the way, is where the PPQ meets its major roadblock. I have a 5 PPQ 22 on order, and very much look forward to trying it out. A lot of that was due to the weapons ban of the 90s and restrictions that were put on the pistol for importing to the US. Im just trying to figure out what could be easier than disassembling a Glock. The same gripe I had about the extended slide catch lever carries over, as you would expect. Okay, shooting any gun to me is a blast, but I find a special kind of joy when I shoot the PPQ. Haven't heard much in the way of problems with the 9mm and 40S&W versions. Almost everyone that Ive heard complain about not being able to use the paddle style releases indicate that they cannot reach it well with their thumb. Thanks!!! I just bought a PPQ M1. I cant find if this gun is DA or only SA? If you want a pistol with a lifetime warranty then buy one (many other Walther models have lifetime warranties for the original purchaser). Trust me, this is a one hundred yard pistol. The Walther PPQ is going to come with three-dot, white sights. The front and rear flat-bottom slide serrations allow for a secure hold when pulling back the slide. No? I have avoided buying .22 guns simply because I can hardly find ammo for the ones I already have. I just uploaded another photo to the review that shows what this looks like (the very last photo now). Now I have 2 awesome 9s! Its one of the most corrosion/wear resistant finishes you could ask for on a production pistol. How well does it do with Heavily lubed ammo such as Standard +? It happens because the slide and barrel move into the battery. Integrated Hex Tool in the Removable Backstrap. Im not going to name names but I dont, havent, and wont own basically any of the .22 LR pistols on the market that look like centerfire guns and function whereby the entire slide reciprocates. In many ways, the P99 is everything the GLOCK isand then some. Your Walther PPQ might fail to feed. I have always considered that to be much more reliable. According to Walthers web site, the PPQ M2 22 slide is die cast zinc, just like the P22. The PPQs trigger is in the same style of a GLOCK; the pistol will not fire unless the drop safety is pulled. Barrel Length:Available in 4, 4 + thread adapter, or 5 with long slide. Oh, make sure its empty and in a safe direction. Replacing the ammunition is the fix to this problem. I have several pistols, among them the PPQ. At a pretty consistent 4.25 lbs, the trigger requires just a bit less force than the 9mm PPQ we tested, which came in at 4.75 lbs. Very good accuracy at 15 meters. Functions flawlessly. fits a womans small to medium-sized hands An unintentional magazine release means that the magazine drops unintentionally. But most reviews ive seen and read say that it has some issues. They unveiled a new pistol that they claimed would not only fix the P99s few faults, but would update its already advanced features and appeal to the American market: the Police Pistol Quick Defense, a.k.a, the Walther PPQ. That said, as long as you have your fundamentals down, you won't have any problem quickly reloading your Walther PPQ. Height:5.3 Great gun, like the paddle mag release, love the trigger. 5. The whole reason people choose 9mm over 45acp is because you can get more hits on target faster with less training. Question of the Day: Should Disguising a Real Gun as a Toy be Illegal? Im just saying. No pistol has as shorter trigger pull than a 1911. You anti-trigger-pull people must hate dry firing for practice then? Buying one for my mom as well, who is just getting into shooting and loved the gun. Dead round: When the round doesnt fire on ejecting out, and you see a good dent on the primer, the chances are that the round is dead. Walther destroyed their reputation with the P22, I know they produce good 9mm pistols but after the P22, I would never again trust the company. I love this gun. Especially the smooth trigger. Tastes like strawberry. Ive rented a PPQ couple times at the local range. Gun works good with most .22 ammo . Equipped with standard three-dot, polymer sights, the PPQ has accompanied me on almost every shooting day since I purchased it, and for good reason. This full-size 9mm or 45 ACP striker-fired pistol features a textured grip surface and three interchangeable backstraps, an integral Picatinny rail for mounting aftermarket accessories, three-dot low profile sights that won't snag when drawn from concealment, and a double . But then Ive seen so many guys try to assert coolness by disassembling their 1911, Glock, or other pistol very quickly. The basic maintenance and care include springs and parts that you should monitor every 5000 rounds or so. Now for those who complain about pulling the trigger before disassemblywelldont you practice gun safety? So I'm going to have to give the edge to the Walther PPQ M2 versus HK VP9 when it comes to manipulating the slide. The slide is incredibly easy to rack when the hammer is cocked, which is basically all of the time unless you dry fire it or encounter a dud round. Trust me, with this kind of trigger travel, you cant only shoot the PPQ fast, you can shoot it accurately too. I also put lots of bare lead or waxed lead through the PPQ. That is an induction hardened piece, but it could break off eventually. But come on what can you reasonably expect when you try to warranty a 10-year-old product that had a 1-year warranty? Ive put this pistol through a variety of conditions and all I see are a couple of very light scratches that take concentration to be noticed. Trijicon Night Sight for Walther PPQ Pistol: Best Night Sight. I chose it over the M2 because, as you say, the release button looks like an after thought. I also find the reset even shorter on the P99 AS than the PPQ, as hard as that is to believe. Also Read: Best Sights for Walther PPQ M2. The next 80-90 had numerous FTE (fail to eject), around 20 or so, using Federal 1200 or 1240 FPS 40 grain LRN. Were having some trouble with ours cycling/ejecting. glad it worked out,,,,nothing worse then a brand new gun with issues. Their representative Conner in customer service, refused to have it returned for Walther to fix the firearm. This isnt a smaller scale, pot metal, cheapo plinker like so many .22 pistols out there its the full-size PPQ you know and love, made by Walther, with the same controls and slide length options as its centerfire brother and with a pretty darn good trigger in its own right. Bro no offense but thats way out of the warranty period. The standard 4 inch barrel Walther is 329, or about 200 dollars less than the FN. In terms of overall application, I view the PPQ as an excellent alternative to the GLOCK 19. The pressure generated by a .22 lr just doesnt require thicker steel. I never see Walther anything at any local gunstores. Nonetheless, a couple of compelling criticisms exist with the P99. And apparently this gun is actually manufactured by Walther, and not by Umarex. The mag release is easy to find and easy to press, and mags drop free. Every gun has an Achilles heel, and for the PPQ its the limited number of aftermarket accessories. Tenifer is a ferric nitro carburized hardening that diffuses carbon and nitrogen. I cannot believe the firearm left quality control like that. I was happy with the G19, but am now a convert to guns that have paddle magazine releases. Have you taken it apart and cleaned/lubed it? I suppose it is a quality control issue, with the slide,rear sight alignment: I too have the issue with the rear sight almost out beyond the edge of the frame dovetail to get centered on target at 10 yardsmy 9mm P99 had no such issue at all. A lot of people seem to complain about a sharp recoil, muzzle flip? PPQ M2 is my goto range toy. Rifled Barrel. Gun Manufacturers would sell a lot more .22 guns if Ammo Suppliers could keep up with the demand for .22 ammo. Who makes and where did you get the upper left muzzle break. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. Now I have to go hunt one down for my AR. They are pretty darn similar if you set them next to each other. I finally sent mine in last week. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The edge on the extractor claw may become rounded. Obviously, no gun is truly perfect. It has serious carry problems, as I learned. Cant have it all. Ive shot a PPQ several times and feel it is one of the finest, if not the finest, polymer pistol available, but the trigger is my only complaint and thats what stopped me from buying one. Three backstraps accommodate different shooters as well. Certainly there are many manufacturers who make button releases that are truly ambidextrous use, the M2 is much like the G19, in that it requires a configuration change to switch. Place in a new backstrap, push the pin back in, and youre good to go! Broken extractor: This issue is pretty common with a PPQ. I personally do not find much difference in the 2 guns when shooting and both are dead on accurate. Does not feel like it. I am with Tex300BLK on the magazine release. The frame is the same polymer that you get on the big boy toys, and it has steel inserts for the slide rails, barrel block, and basically all of the moving parts. And Im still trying to imagine true JHP ammo in .22 LR. anyone know where too get the dragon mouth suppressor or know who makes it any info would be appreciated. Its run great for over 10k rds. Clean and lubricate your gun to solve the issue. Well, I thought this was going to be a good battle, turns out the 2nd Walther PPQ started doing the exact same thing as the 1st one did. Then a vertical screw needs to be added to press one of the end of the mount up so that the part is firmly secured to the slide. The pistol is too heavily lubricated: When your pistol is too heavily lubricated, it can cause failure to return to battery. So, if you dryfire a lot, you have to have snap caps or dummy rounds to take that impact from the firing pin. No difference in function. discussions around Walther firearms including but not limited to the PPK, PPK/S, PP, P38, PPQ, PPS, P99, PPX, CCP, PK380, P22, G22, WA2000, VG, G43, G41, MP, CREED, and Q5 Match. Below mentioned is the cause of this malfunction and its fix. Weight w/ Empty Magazine:19 oz, 19.1 oz, or 20 oz, respective to barrel options. Dirt or obstruction in striker channel: If there is dirt or any other obstruction in the striker channel of your PPQ, it will fail to fire. The Remington Thunderbolt did great. Therefore this is a left-of-center pistol. Wish my SR-22 held a couple more rounds. May i ask you please to tell me what is the brand and model of the threaded adapter that you have installed on this pistol instead of the original one? It's almost like a factor of deduction in a good Sherlock Holmes mystery. You have entered an incorrect email address! A forum community dedicated to handgun owners and enthusiasts. The sights, trigger, grip are a grand slam. These are built by Walther, not Umarex. The rounds seem to eject and feed fine, looking at the ejection port when the slide is stuck doesnt seem to reveal any issues there. Below mentioned are all the malfunctions a Walther PPQ can have. Sight Radius: 6.4 inches. Even many of them that appear to have thick barrels and dont have a removable sleeve actually have only a very thin, steel barrel insert inside of a wrapper of polymer or an inexpensive metal over it to give it the look of being thicker. Also, are there any other rear sights available (such as a two dot), instead of the plain black rear sight? Put Trijicon Orange Dot HD night sights and a Crimson Trace green Railmaster Pro, and you have the Ultimate Home Defense rig. This problem occurs when the shooters interfere with the slide stop lever with their firing hand thumb. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The momentum of the gun dropping back after recoil can be enough to cause ones finger to bump the trigger 0.1 inch and cause it to fire. I will never part with this firearm. Could this be the cause of it or should it look like this? Any chance this would work with a walther PPQ 43 cal paintball pistol, guys? Plus, the build quality inspires a higher level of confidence than the zinc alloy, farmed-out-to-a-BB-gun-factory norm. Over the years, Ive shot a very wide variety of semi-autos in all calibers and sizes, and have never once had an inadvertent double tap. ; Malfunctions Due to Ammo or Gun Mechanics. She developed a knack for guns and ammunition when as a teenager she started accompanying her grandfather to his hunting ventures. PPQ problems. This is easily the most comfortable and ergonomic pistol Ive ever held in my life. Took apart the striker assembly and noticed the spring looked like this. Drop Free CO2 Magazine. Let me put it this wayafter six months of owning, carrying and shooting this pistol, I can safely state that the Walther PPQ M2 is everything the P99 isand then a whole lot more. It does not like bulk ammo very much. I could not believe that it was legal to sell such a piece of junk. 4. In this case, the slide fails to go forward to the place where the barrel locks up, and the disconnector allows the gun to fire. I did not expect much out of the trigger but after the first couple of shots I discovered that the trigger was what set this gun apart. Walther says that, despite some similarities, the PPQ .22 uses its own magazines and they arent compatible with those of other models. Its single action only. Just bought a 4" Compact, looking forward to getting it. Dirty pistol: If your pistol is not properly cleaned and maintained, it can fail to fire. So youve only fired a Glock and maybe a revolver or DAO semi-auto? Here we have confirmation of the lack of trigger discipline that comes with using a modern pistol. After that, lubricate it for the given environment. Love Walther now. I sent it to . With the smaller mag it can be a bit of a handful, but I . Walther dropped the original PPS's unusual "QuickSafe" striker-disconnect feature. Around 3000 rounds in less than a year on mine and still loving it. Walther PPQ M2 Features. As a .45-aholic, I once felt compelled to add a 9mm item. Its an excellent design. Even with that, Id say Walther PPQ trigger easily the best on the market, EVEN when you compare its trigger with awesome trigger of single-action Sig 1911, the famously crisp and smooth one. I'm not in the market for an M2. Having diverse .45s and a Glock 20 (with an extra .40cal barrel), I went with the PPQ. I found this a little disappointing since it could affect that person whos seriously using this as a less-expensive-to-shoot practice tool for their centerfire PPQ. The magazine well on the Walther PPQ M2 is really deficient. Customization: * * First check ammo, then magazines. Missing trigger bar guide: One more reason for this problem is that the trigger bar guide is missing. The P22 has always come with a 1-year warranty. Ive had mine since May. Now, after lots of dry-fire practice and about 5000 rounds at the range, I better understand why its called Quick Defense Trigger. Only thing done is to experiment with different recoil springs. Having some problems with my Walther PPQ m2 jamming. They were pretty quick getting me an rma with a prepaid FedEx label, though I missed it for a few weeks because it was filtered to a folder I didnt check. As mentioned before, it would be sweet if the Tactical version shipped with taller sights to clear a suppressor, but theyre the same sights as on the standard 4 model. Loose front sight screw: This problem occurs when the front sight screw is loose. So, it wont have the full force to pull the extractor back. Honestly though, Im so satisfied with the factory grip on my PPQ anyway, that I wont be changing it anytime soon. Was not too fond of the original mag release, but no big deal for me. Evaluate and correct it. The solution is to replace the ammunition. Gun Review: Taurus GX4XL T.O.R.O. Ammunition failure: Failure of ammo is yet another cause for this problem. I shot one of these recently, I only put a magazine through it but I was impressed. To say one is better than the other is just going to come down to what you like personally. Jose, I think youve put your finger on the problem. When Ive increased my distance from the target to around 40 to 50 feet, my groups do widen, but not significantly. I love my PPQs. But if your PPQ striker is broken already, you need to replace it. This is The Best Running .22 pistol I have Ever used in 55 years. Caliber: 9mm, also available in .40 S&W. Capacity: 15+1 for 9mm, 11+1 for .40 S&W. Sights: front sight is 3-dot low profile polymer; rear sight windage adjustable, steel night sights available, I've heard on Walther Forums that the .40s need to break in a bit. The P22 has normal pistol style but is downscaled and much smaller, so you can still tell its a .22 mostly due to the tiny grip circumference. Its a marked improvement over any other pistol Ive ever fired Oddly Aguila pistol match (925 fps) and RWS pistol target (also ~900fps) also did cycle well, though I only tried one box of each due to cost. so get this amazing Feel The Beat Hoodie Moreover, it has a hoodie-style collar with a pullover front closure and rib knitted cuffs to hold your wrist. Try a spare magazine, repair or replace it. There is about a hundred dollars more for the FN 502. Dirty Pistol: One reason for this issue is that your pistol is dirty. I was ready to destroy it and throw it away, but Walther stood behind their project and now I still have a decent (although worn out and beat up) P22. Replace the ammunition for fixing this issue. Is the PPQ perfect? At least, norm in the sense of whats popular these days, and certainly among .22 pistols that look like centerfire pistols and where the entire slide reciprocates (rather than an internal bolt or small cut-out portion of the slide, which Ive historically found to function more reliably). Not machined aluminum. I have put (my estimate) about 50,000 rounds through it. Question of the Day: Do You Know Any Fudds? The grip form and texture are superior to Glocks. Timing is everything. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Bent magazine feed lips: Another probable cause for the failure to feed on your PPQ is when you drop your gun on concrete or anything solid like that, the magazine feed lips bent. Any firearm that requires you to pull the trigger for dis-assembly/cleaning is just plain stupid. But. The stainless steel construction is excellent. The PPQ 22 was great to shoot, it has the same great ergonomics of the centerfire pistol and shares the same controls. 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