Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. And we appreciate your dogged determination to get to the bottom of what happened. The team are still investigating if this has any relevance to the case and are appealing for anyone with information about it to come forward. This post deals with sexual assault and might be triggering for some readers. The detectives in the programme got a breakthrough when they were able to track down Muriel's relative Martin Phillips, who had been six at the time of the murder. South Wales Police said: "All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as cold cases, are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. 2023 The True Crime Files. More here: https://bit.ly/WoodlawnJaneDoe. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. The True Crime Files Photo added by Tracey. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was singing as she walked along the mile-long path to her home after getting off a school bus. Hi Neil. I appealed that decision and was then informed that as the information I requested was kept in paper format in various locations in South Wales then it would be too costly and time-consuming to check out so the request was denied. She was shot twice in the chest. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. [15] There is evidence that Harries was employed by Drinkwater's father, John, at the time of her death. Her route to her family's home Tyle-Du Farm entailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. It was the 75th anniversary this year, and still we are no nearer to finding her killer. The comments below have not been moderated. Just before his execution, Harries gave an extraordinary interview to the tabloid press from his jail cell. Video, 00:01:00, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. The D.N.A. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. Regards. Well here is the TRUTH. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. Muriel Drinkwater. With the help from a niece of Muriel Drinkwater I pursued my research which led to South Wales Police taking a D.N.A. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. Muriel was the same age as my Aunt Peggy and they went to Primary school together. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. 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The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. We know 100% that it is the killer's stain. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. In August, the police appealed to the U.S. public for assistance, as many Americans had been stationed in Penllergaer during the recent Second World War and there was a possibility one of the servicemen had sold the weapon. There must be other victims of this person as I cant see him stopping. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. Hey Babes!I'm back with another True Crime Tuesday case and todays case is about the murder of Muriel Drinkwater also known as the little red riding hood mur. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? Mark Lewis by email of this fact but my email was ignored. Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. Muriel N Drinkwater (born Maker) was born on month day 1903, at birth place, to Thomas L Maker and Margaret L Maker (born Baum). Who sodomises a 12 year old girl and batters her about the head, then shoots her twice in the chest? This forensic approach is becoming more common. But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. He said, ``She was regularly seen walking, skipping and singing in the woods as she made her way each day from her home to the . The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. Will do Christine. "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. Would a nephew definitely suffice to prove a link to Harol Jones and the crime scene stain on Muriels coat. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. Hi. Dear Sir/Madam. The Welsh policehave also examined connections between Muriels case and a second murder that occurred a mere ten days after she was killed. The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. Close. The case, which became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. After discussing this development with Muriels niece, myself, Muriels niece and a number of of her nursing friends came to the same conclusion that if Jones daughter isnt his biological daughter then Jones could not completely rule out Jones as a suspect. ADVERTISEMENT BY ANCESTRY.COM. Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. He could not be placed at the scene, and the DNA ruled him out of the investigation. request regarding the unsolved murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater near Swansea in June 1946. [16][17], In 2010, the Lord Chancellor's Advisory Council on National Records and Archives closed off public access to the case, acting at the behest of Scotland Yard. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. Harries bludgeoned two of his relatives to death with a hammer when they wouldn't let him borrow their car. South Wales Police some years ago announced that a potential suspect Hubert Hoyles had been cleared of Muriels death through DNA profiling. There are, of course, other theories regarding who was lying in wait on that fateful day. D.S. Her mother Margaret watched from the house as the youngest of. "Looking through the paper work, we could see the materials had left the crime scene, where it had gone, where it had been examined. I had informed him that Harold Jones had been living incognito in various West London locations after his release from prison in 1941. The reason given for sealing the files was that it could help the police catch the perpetrator. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. 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Bethell was thrilled to discover that on the back of the coat, a no-longer visible dried semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Bethell sent the coat toDr. Colin Dark, and over the course of three years (MUCH longer than depicted on television and in the movies) Bethell analyzed the material and was able to extract enough fragments of DNA tosuccessfully create a Y-STR profile from the semen stain. Can you explain please. I have informed South Wales Police regarding this information to save them a fortune on a wild goose chase trying to extract D.N.A. The Crime Review Group already have the information that I request. [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. Posted by 8 minutes ago. Oftentimes the public wonders why resources should be allocated to cold cases such as Muriels, cases in which most of victims immediate family, and even the perpetrator, are likely dead. with South Wales Police has recently conceded that it CANNOT be categorically stated that Harold Jones has been ruled out completely as Muriels killer. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Is it possible that scientists could examine Muriels coat and find another profile that could be compared to Jones daughters D.N.A.? She was still wearing her school uniform. I was made aware the following day that my request would NOT be granted. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946 Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. You will need a male dna profile from a decendent on harold joness family tree. 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Video, 00:00:42Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. On the afternoon of Muriels murder, thirteen-year-old Hoyles purchased eggs from Muriels mother at their family farm. Also that they likely watched Muriel and knew her route. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. If the perpetrator was lying in wait as I believe he was, why select that certain spot? Edith Patten had been buried in the old town cemetery and was left behind when officials relocated the graves in the 1930s. [citation needed], In 2009, Welsh police began reinvestigating any link with the murder of 11-year-old Sheila Martin, who was raped and strangled 250 miles away in Sun Hill Wood, Fawkham Green, Kent, on 7 July 1946, ten days after Drinkwater's murder. They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. What a big moment in this case! Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. 'I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. South Wales Police detectives requested the original case file from Kent Police to determine if there was a connection. He died at that address in 1971. Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the South Wales Polices Specialist Crime Review Unit announced to the press in May 2019: The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Business class plane passenger refuses to give up his seat so a man could sit next to his wife on her birthday - selfish or fair enough? Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. "[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. Just a few weeks short of her 13th birthday, Muriel had been beaten on the crown of her head with an object, raped and then shot twice in the . http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. 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Regards. Hi Neil. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Neil Milkins. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. Her route to her familys home Tyle-Du Farmentailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. He must have known she was near home because she waved and if we are saying this was a planned attack he wouldve studied Muriels routine, studied her route, he was near where her route went, that is a very specific route to go in and out the forest, and with balance of probability he therefore must have known Muriel and her family business to cripple the mother to cripple the business. Welsh author Neil Milkinsargues that Harold Jones,a convicted murderer who killed two girls in Abertillery in 1921 when he was just 15 years old, was Muriels killer. I received the following letter from D.C. Paul Rogers on 6 December 2007. On June 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea. They pieced together evidence from the time, used new forensic breakthroughs and links to other cases in the area to identify who they think murdered Muriel in the most horrific way. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. Also, it was near a Japanese plantation and the workers may have possibly assaulted her and the cigarette butts, bread and sweet wrappers may have come from the plantation. Given that Hoyles was the last person to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a thick veil of suspicion. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. The new B.B.C. Medicaid to cut 14 MILLION Americans from health coverage as states crack down on eligibility for the first time in three years after numbers soared during COVID - so are you at risk? Are you able to tell me if her father has been cleared via DNA profiling?. Required fields are marked *. Pinterest. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Paul says: "Muriel had almost made it to the home. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. true crime. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. The 73-year-old stain was discovered during a cold case review in 2003 and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of evidence in the world. Thanks again for sharing this. I contacted D.S. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. And police now hope a stain on Muriel's coat will. Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May, 2019. On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. Something went wrong, please try again later. 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