", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. ), http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117874134598/hi-i-just-wanted-to-comment-on-your-tag-about, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117835308868/ayabewakasa-one-unsubstantiated-article-that, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/118060768918/about-the-issue-of-siwon-saying-no-to-the-fanboy, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/119551166438/baekbitchyeol-catchmeinthedrift. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. Others were soon reminding Hwasa once again of her past mistakes, including wearing blackface along with the rest of Mamamoo in a performance where they were parodying Bruno Mars. Anyway, just my thoughts. Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. i love exo. There are so many kids in the . However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. Ill probably check over the masterpost tomorrow and try to add more info and context and stuff. Feb 22, 2023. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). eventAction: 'click_ads' Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. },false) Guess we just have to deal with the immature fans who judge them for small things. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. TWICE - jihyo: wore a native american costume + introduced herself as ''indian jihyo . She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . According to Koreaboo, throughout the conversations, not a single person from their side attempted to make excuses for their actions. Ive said before that my intent is to provide information, and that should include context and possible explanations, and Im sorry it didnt. All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. You need to Register or Login to view the content. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. window.googletag.cmd.push(function() { If other fandoms are able to trend Mamamoo/Hwasa hate comments, it will distract from the messes that other fandoms are currently dealing with. I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. That worried him. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. They make a difference. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. }); They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? This brings us now to the true reason for this article. Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? I hope everybody has a good day/night. They are not exactly multicultural societies vs. north america. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. hitType: 'event', The sun will always shine for us. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. } This has been a hard decision to make, one Ive been debating with for a good while now, but Ive decided I think its best for me to take a break from this blog. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. This thread can't even agree on what Mamamoo did or did not do and yet y'all want to drag them into Blackpink's problematic sh*t to divert the attention, y'all are a damn mess. hitType: 'event', You must understand that Asians are very very different from non asians in terms of being conservative, preferring lighter skin and saying that theh are not gay. The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. Ive also seen Chanyeol and Baekhyun fans criticise them for the stuff theyve said/done, but move on and continue to be their fans, which is also a personal decision. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. }); The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. (I read your tags) I hope you dont mind me reblogging this, If you do please just tell me and Ill delete it. They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . I'm sure I'm still unlearning a lot of things today. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. gads_event = event; I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Yes I should have included more context. For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? #1. A quick list (that is nowhere near all) of the vocal famous Mamamoo fans include: JYP (founder of JYPE), Yoo Hee Yeol (Host of Sketchbook), Im Chang Jung (senior ballad singer), Lee Hyori (senior solo artist), Hyuna (solo artist), Seulgi (of Red Velvet), Lee Dahee (actress), Wang Bitna (actress), and Kim Hyesoo (actress). eventAction: 'load' To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. We are one of the worlds fastest growing People always said they do so much CA and I tried to find some examples but the only one that again seemed to be twisted was them appropriating Indian culture during AZE GAG but that was misconstrued as it was about Buddhism not Hindu culture even the line is the song is about Buddhism and one of the members is Buddhist so I don't have a massive issue with it. }) But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. },false) Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. The world doesnt revolve around America and our issues, not everyone has their eyes on America 24/7. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. } It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. Thats not true. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. I know they've apologized for many of their other problems they faced but seriously, the hate is so overwhelming. ga('create', 'UA-67136960-15', 'auto', 'ads'); I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. when in retrospect it really wasnt my place to do so and I want to say Im really, sincerely sorry about that. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 You need to Register or Login to view the content. Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. They were ignorant and uneducated at the time. ourbridgeisforever:. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. Goodnight. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. ; _____; aaaa. Call me out for what? Threads: 200. Trust me when I say that most of the people who whine about mamamoo blackface are non-black people , I've seen a lot of black MooMoos who have forgiven them since the apology , but a lot of non black kpop fans wear it on their neck like it actually affected them in the first place , I may be the only one who thinks this way but American Kpop fans act very arrogantly when it comes to mamamoo a controversy. }); Our hearts on fire . People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. MEAWW brings you the best content from its global team of So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. The company even took it down same day and cut it out so to make sure that it was offending people. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. 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