So the Antecedent phrase ends on scale degree 2 in the >melody, on a half cadence, the consequent phrase ends on scale degree 1 on >an authentic cadence.>>I picked up ^2 here because it's usually 2 with a caret on top in texts, but >it's hard to do in non-typingese like I type. All interpretations are valid given the context of the actual notes placed before us.The answer depends on what expectations we superimpose over what is shown,based on what we know about *other* pieces . The C does go down to B (measure to measure), >and the 5th is omitted (a common omission). α λ10. So the Antecedent phrase ends on scale degree 2 in the melody, on a half cadence, the consequent phrase ends on scale degree 1 on an authentic cadence. The tempomarking for the Minuet in G is Moderato. >> Probably a misunderstanding on my part, but curious that it DOES show> up somewhat near the end like Fux said. 28 No. There's more to this >> Looking for landmarks: In the G major one, I only see a key change to D> major> (starting I think at bar 20 and changing back to G maj at 25 )>> In the G minor one, it is more complicated. Insufficient Pro Credits Add 3 credits for only $10.00 Add to Cart . Topics: Binary form A harpsichord piece by Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach. >>First, there seems to be no discernible melody in the>left hand part! This action will also remove this member from your connections and send a report to the site admin. Polonaise in G minor 5. >Generally speaking, here's defs for above:>Incomplete neighbors: Two notes adjacent in pitch such as D C or C D where >it appears they could have been (or would often have been) part of the>"complete" neighbor figure C D C or D C D. This category also serves the >catch-all purpose of explaining "unprepared" suspensions or appoggiature, >thus in>D_D C or G D C the note that prepares the figure would be missing (or >shall we say, implied) and it would end up D C or, D C! 115 (Not written by Bach; by Petzold) Musette in D major, BWV anh. (fux) recommends before the ending,> although here it occurs in the soprano voice only as a melodic leap> and not quite (slightly before) the part where aloys. However, it is most notable in the fact that the Minuet is the only dance that is directly separated into two parts, a Minuet 1, and a Minuet 2. Actually, I got the idea from this exchange you had with J Jensen: >Also, the really interesting question involves the companion piece>#4 in G major. >>>>Just adding forward motion - but there are NCTs there the C4 is UN (or >>App. (Orchestral Suite No. Happy Farmer from Album for the Young, Op. Creative Commons Attribution 4.0, Performer: Ivan Ili (Piano) Peters, n.d.(1890) At this point, it is worth stating how impressive and incredible it is that Bach is able to establish such patterns. The first 8 bars are played and repeated. It has a fast and skittish undertone, with constantly racing notes and moving rhythms. The middle section of the 2nd Minuet is a very lyrical but sad section. δ λ inverse19. (Compare m. 5 >with m.13. Bar 20 sees the bass move to the scale degree in D major. Find all thematic subjects and sequences. Bach was married to a woman by the name of Anna Magdalena (this was Bachs second wife). >(BIG disclaimer here - I'm looking at the Belwin edition that is >riddled with errors, so it's entirely possible that yours is different from >mine (and mine is probably less correct, but I'll assume it is OK for now). 114, from the Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach.This piece is now attributed to Christian Petzold.Source: 'Notenbchlein der Anna Magdalena Bach' (1725), manuscript preserved at the Berlin State Library.00:00 Titles - Part 100:27 Part 1 Repeat00:51 Part 201:15 Part 2 RepeatUrtext edition: https://youtu.be/cnOL_3uXtAgStudent edition with full fingering and written out ornaments: https://youtu.be/IH6ir1rTDBAMelodic analysis:Key melodic figures, from short motifs to larger thematic units, are marked with a distinct color.A new color means a new melodic figure. Musical examples of increasing complexity are used to provide training in the analysis, performance, and writing of rhythm. the first IN is b-c over a C chord, which i can sorta see 'out ofcontext', the next is D# to E, which I can also see 'out of context'.but in context, it just looks like a melodic run. The repetition bars helps us find out the end of each section. I have read that often minuets were meant to be played in pairs andthat these two are companion pieces, but what is really important isthatthey sound so similiar and share many patterns. That is a good correction! 2 (L. van Beethoven) * Minuet from Sei Quintetti per Archi No. 1, Minuet III from Suite in G Minor for Klavier, BWV 822 (J. S. Bach) * Minuet No. Today, we remember Bach as an incredible musician and composer who gave us some iconic musical masterpieces such as his Cello Suite, Toccata and Fugue, and the Well-Tempered Clavier. Some would prefer you mention the fact that it's accented, and some use the term app for any such accented "dissonance" (this though assumes the broader definition of app. Just adding> more animation to the part (kind of like the bassist is getting bored> and want's to stretch a bit), Just adding forward motion - but there are NCTs there the C4 is UN (or App.) ____ ______ / / / ________, ii I V I6 I V7. γ γ14. >> I chose vi instead of vi 6/4 in measure 14 because> a) vi 6/4 seems a little weird here - my ears here it as moving DOWN> to Em confirmed by> b) substituting a low E note for the B, which sounded perfectly fine> to me. 122 (1730) Bartok, Bela (1881-1945) Copyright: Public Domain, Performer pages: Ivan Ili (Piano) The bass never leaves the G (it's a half note).>>That D4 is a third voice entering for just these two measures (later in >>m.29>>too).> A -HA. >>>>No it's all V. Agian, my edition has the bass a dotted half, so it lasts >>the>>entire measure. remember the 2+ 1 Harmonic Rhythm we discussed in the minor version? It features a famous and popular melody titled Minuet in G, a female vocal trio, and a mystery author. The piece was written not for the common individuals of the time but the musically elite. first time thru, He gives whole> chunks of sound - one measure each (more open to interpretation IMO);> 9-16 there's more definition given via the increased bass motion ,so> it's a little easier to see. This minuet is, paradoxically, more complicated harmonically due to its simplicity. Quora User Morgan Stanley Alum & Chief Financial Officer at Masterworks Updated Dec 13 Promoted Where do billionaires invest when there's high inflation? I'm a graduate (summa cum laude) of Berklee College of Music. My teacher said they (Dover)weren't bad as a general rule. During this melody, it can be difficult to play the notes short and precise while maintaining the delicacy. There was, at the time, a female vocal trio from New York who called themselves The Toys and they had a smash hit called A Lovers Concerto. Check it out, using some critical listening skills, and see if it rings a bell. other similarities I see may or may not be characteristic of minuetsin general,so I've not mentioned them here. Using the chords to see >which they sound like they're a part of is a good idea, but don't pass >judgement solely on that :-). The melody is in the right hand/treble part in section A. then in section B starts in the left hand/bass part. In other words, >>the>>figure D C where D is accented>> again, I'm having problems with the word 'accented'.are we referring> to composer markings or metric position? But now I see this was where I needed to start at. The meter is 3/4. 114 (1725) Bach, Carl Philipp Emanuel (1714-1788) March in G, from Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach, BWV Anh. This was domestic music, to be enjoyed by the family. Γ(sorta) Γ--------------------------------------25. (fux) recommends before the ending,>> although here it occurs in the soprano voice only as a melodic leap>> and not quite (slightly before) the part where aloys. The second minuet, almost in direct contrast, begins in minor form. or even a 2 + 1 rhythm scheme Am - D6/4> into the G. I respect the fact that you know much more about the> history of counterpoint than I and are very knowledgable in general.> But the fact is there aren't any triads here.>> I'm not trying to argue you - I accept your solution as making sense> in context. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. [ Theres also a type of melodic one-note-at-a-time, which whiletechnically a melody,only outlines harmony (such as arpeggiatedfigures, or what's called 'Alberti Bass').This is not one of them ], Yes is it. The rhythm is based on a syllable count, accents, and long and short vowels. This recording is performed on the harpsichord, an instrument that is the predecessor of the piano. My First Bach - Johann Sebastian Bach 2018-03-15 Learn from the master. But despite the pieces actual composer being Christian Petzold, according to this latest research, most people, I would guess, will still think its Bachs. Peters, n.d.[1879] What about m.5 being a V6/4? I read the notes as G down to E, now that I'veactually LOOKED, I see it's G up to B. We cadence to Bb at meas.16.Measures 17 -- 20 would seem to be in F and we are drifting back toBb in measure 22 and cadence to Bb in measure 24; then we slip intoG melodic minor ascending for the remainder of the piece (incidentally,I still don;t know what to make of the G major in measure 25! Bach Suite No. Topics: Binary form Hey welcome back! γ γ15. Mesure 25 is just a momentary hint at G major - or could be the V of C minor - I'd have to look at it again but one measure of the opposite mode does not disrupt the key too much usually. It is harmonically accompanying the angelical choir through the highs and lows of the chant. Yes, but it's neither :-D - you've twice now invented em chords when there's no E present! Uploaded on May 01, 2016. There is an accented passing note on the 3rd beat giving a 4-3 sequence of intervals with the bass. and Binary or rounded binary form which is AB or ABA (with repeats) is represented, Throughout the piece I would say that the rhythm was pretty regular. Composed: 1720 Info: In other words, the >figure D C where D is accented. >>I'm working on "Air on a G>> String' next. Please allow a few minutes for this process to complete. And I never did. In fact, this is the first mention I've heard of it for a while. Minuet and Trio for Brass Quartet (2 Trumpets, Trombone, Tuba); 3. It should be required reading for anyone with love of, or interest in, classical music. This familiar minuet by J.S. This book is the first dedicated volume of academic analysis on the monumental work of Elena Ferrante, Italy's . It starts first with a 3rd (C) over the scale degree (A) in the bass and then we see two consecutive accented passing notes D-C and B-A over an A bass ( scale degree). Hmm, you need some counterpoint texts!I think the example I gave above will make it clearer, but let me know if it doesn't. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. By changing the key, this gives the piece variety and makes it more intriguing. I think both of them are just passing ideas (granted, passing ideas with some "hints at the dominant"). This is why a lot of people don't care as much for the incomplete neighbor solution - in one sense it's a cop out - basically whatever you can't identify call a IN! same as above - Dom 7ths. Finally, in frustration, he said "Look, When you> sit on the toilet, you SIT ON IT. Minuet in G minor 7. chamber music, BWV 1008. >There's no vi?My bad - until I saw this right here I hadn't realized I've beenPLAYING IT WRONG! >>>>only on a metrically weak position, but with the ET being shorter in value>>(like the 16th of a dotted 8th-16th pair).>> that's a helpful clue i haven't heard mentioned before. There's usually some ancestral evolution to trace. β ?5. 28 No. Courtesy of http://www.SheetMusicFox.com, Performer Pages: Martha Goldstein (Piano) >I wanted to follow up with what I had on the "pattern matching", >in Bach's Minuet in G (BWV 114) and Minuet in Gm (115). No it's all V. Agian, my edition has the bass a dotted half, so it lasts the entire measure. Wolf, Hugo (1860-1903) It seemedlike he was trying to do a major key version of the i6-viio6-i fromm.27 of the minor piece we looked at. Please help us to complete the musical heritage of Bach, by supporting us with a donation! It seems to be going well, yeah. Audio: Youtube, Sheet Music: Schumann-Ich Grolle Nicht; Breitkopf & Hrtel, 1879-1912 Ltd. is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. strings sound hesitant, creating a delicate and sensitive sound. We cadence to Bb at meas.>16.>Measures 17 -- 20 would seem to be in F and we are drifting back to>Bb in measure 22 and cadence to Bb in measure 24; then we slip into>G melodic minor ascending for the remainder of the piece (incidentally,>I still don;t know what to make of the G major in measure 25! To be honest, I don't even remember>>the definition but I think it's a variation (like direction, or metric>>placement) of ET.>> Yeah, that's pretty mush how he describes it.>>. This is the dominant of G major. Minuet in G BWV Anh. 20 (1838-1839), Sheet Music: Chopin-Prelude No 20; Publisher: C.F. The Bill Withers classic song Aint No Sunshine is a funky R&B standard that has also found a home in jazz circles. I>> * = same as previous. It, On 6 Jun 2005 22:41:33 -0700, "J Jensen" <, I wanted to follow up with what I had on the "pattern matching", On 17 Jun 2005 13:53:44 -0700, "J Jensen" <. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. It does this through all the seven elements of music. It certainly "pushes" ahead, but I wouldn't describe its destination a "cadence" (more like breathing- out in out). Theres a common use of syncopation, which is when notes are played off the beat. link to The 42 Greatest Catholic Liturgical Composers of All Time, link to The 35 Greatest Classical Piano Sonatas. 114 and 115, are a pair of movements from a suite for harpsichord by Christian Petzold, which, through their appearance in the 1725 Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach, used to be attributed to Johann Sebastian Bach. Copyright: Free to download, with the freedom to distribute, modify and perform, Minuet in G, from Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach, BWV Anh. One of the most common is to strike>>the Tonic pitch (usually in soprano) during the last V chord and hold it>>into, or repeat that note on the I chord.>> This I can grasp a bit easier, although I'd prefer a wider range of> examples to draw from than Piston offers.I doubt I could Identify them> in any given piece based solely on the info he provided. outrageous.". The Urtext just inserts a quarter rest> before it in parenthesis ( and I *still* miss it. Yet one of the great miracles of Bach's music for solo instrument (even in pieces for keyboard) is the rich harmony and harmonic motion accomplished by implication: harmonies are formed by a succession of arpeggiated notes - one at time - and our listening mind connects them into chords after the fact. Minuet in G Major is one of the many famous compositions of Johannes Sebastian Bach. >>Bach and Friends did a LOT with melodic fragments changing>and mutating through the course of a piece, but still being>recognizable. In both of these cases some type of G chord is more >obvious. The leading tone of D major, C#, rises to D in the next bar 24. One of the most famous arrangements of this Minuet was recorded by The Toys, a girl group from Jamaica, New York, as "A Lover's Concerto." The song was a #1 single in the US and reached #5 on the UK Global charts. Minuet in G Analysis One of J.S. Yes, I considered that. The bass never leaves the G (it's a half note). (It's got to dowith droppng the weight on the whole notes,lifting motion on smallernote values and cadences LH non legato LH vs legato RH etc)You have toliterally see someone do it. So the harmonic structure of the 2 minuets is different, even if manypatterns are the same it seems like there is an interesting puzzletounravel here >I am still>convinced that there is a "design pattern" between the two and I just>need>to be able to get my hands on it explicitly. ^2, HC -^1, ACcould you explain what this means? includes notes on "the composer, the music of [this] edition" and on "performance". Pop, rock, R&B, jazz, folk, country all were being explored, pioneered, and championed. ?>>Sorry, Schenker already beat you to it :-). But now I see this was where I needed to start at. >>>>>>>>No it's all V. Agian, my edition has the bass a dotted half, so it lasts >>>the>>>entire measure. In bar 22, the bass moves from to which isnt a real cadence but it drops down to before giving us a mild cadence back up to in the next bar, moving in parallel 3rds. Copyright: Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike 3.0 >> (steve: notice I didn't get caught notating em as em7 this time:)> also, I have a feeling you'll correct me on bar 23). He spent most of his life as a church organist and a choir director. reordering of the music. Hope you had a good vacation. Classic Chalkboard Theme by Edward R. Jenkins, modified for Edublogs, Bach Suite No. Misc. A Lovers Concerto is in fact the same song as Minuet in G, written 24o years earlier and it sold more than two million copies! Copyright: Public Domain In two voices, the way the two voices interact may take precedence over their relationship to a chord. β β3. >>The symbols below then refer to melodic patterns in the>right hand part. >> remember the 2+ 1 Harmonic Rhythm we discussed in the minor version? Obviously it's to >embellish a descending line. Alex's RCL Blogging Site 2.0 (the Good One), Bach Suite No. Anticipations are non-chord tones (dissonances) that are played BEFORE the remaining voices arrive at the chord. I also considered the fact that if I'm playingthe melody in the RH, I can only play close position chords in theleft, which is not ideal for working this out. >There is of course evolutionary development, and the two co-exist, but, as >I've said before, everything does not have to be a chord. I'll quote: Label the chords implied by >the two voices. Bach wrote some minuets in the key of G major, but "Minuet in G" usually refers to the Beethoven. Minuet in D . I'm Nikhil Hogan and the CEO of Songbird Music Academy. The Urtext just inserts a quarter rest>> before it in parenthesis ( and I *still* miss it. >> ** 31 - another melodic leap of a sixth in the bass this time just> slightly before Aloys(Fux) recommends.Well, might recommend,anyway. Yesterday I suffered a freak accident that will hamper blogging for a while. 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