It will stay on once i jump the top left and right pins but it wont clear the code. God Bless you! I have the 50 gallon model of the Whirlpool water heater from Lowes that has the Honeywell controller on a Bradford White valve. Rather, drain it at a slower rate with a 1K ohm resistor. When the pilot wont light and there are no flashes, the problem is generally that the heating chamber got too hot and tripped the safety interlock. Regarding these Honeywell 9007884 Reliance 300 Series gas valves, the manual states that the HOT setting is 120F and the VAC (vacation) setting is 55F, but what temperature setpoint is the LOW setting? I also examined the circuit board and noticed a few minor differences, but I think the real problem was in the design and components. I waited to see if the pilot would go off, but about 3 minutes later it started flashing normal, once every 3 seconds. WV8840B1109 has been discontinued Discontinued January 3, 2020 This product was discontinued by the manufacturer. I just found this article. But- I havent tried it so go with this method. Regardless what I tried, it was still 4 flashes. Lore leaf, Great post! Last December, I was forced to replace the valve after I got the four flashes. WV8840B1109 Gas Valve for Honeywell Whirlpool Water Heaters - WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042 No reviews $42999 FREE delivery Feb 27 - Mar 2 Or fastest delivery Feb 24 - 28 Small Business BW Technologies Yellow GasAlertMax XT II Portable Combustible Gas, Carbon Monoxide, Hydrogen Sulphide and Oxygen Monitor with Rechargeable Battery No reviews I have a 2 yr old whirlpool 30 gal gas model with the Honeywell valve unit. I tried several times, and flushed the tank. Because, when they shop at Lowes (and other DIY stores), people dont always, every time, ask them, You carry repair parts for this, right? Apparently the probe was too sensitive to heat caused by sediment build up. Maybe a result of their desire to protect themselves against scald claims and the programmers misunderstanding of high hot might have to be to deliver hot at a faucet that is 75 feet from the tank and serviced by uninsulated lines? Thanks guys!!! Set the dial to a reasonable temperature that wont upset the finicky little thing, and you should be good to go. BTW I wouldnt try to short everything in sight to GND, because the board and components are conformally coated to seal out moisture, so you dont want to damage the coating. * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water [], Young Rey wants to return the amulet to the Blue Wizard, but she's not easy to find! No brown or other weird looking water. If so, I want him shot. Just for reference THISpicture shows the wire that attaches to the control board. What is top left pin and the top right pin you arereferring to, while holdingcircuit board still inside the controllerassembly and facing towards me which corner are youreferring to, can you please give me some details or a picture thatwould be great. I am not sure if holding the temperature button in is electronic or mechanically acts on the pilot valve (would hope the latter). step by step please for dummies. This is the second time Ive had to replace the valve. I had a power outage at my house and coincidentally (?) Days Later after reading further I turned the main gas off, and removed the gas valve and the Torx security screws ( that have a pin to prevent regular Torx from entering the screw head). Well the throw away attitude has caught up with water heaters. Something to consider. Now I have two fail in 27 months. There should be labels red and white on the gas valve to help you plug them back the right way. We have a Whirlpool from Lowes. I closed the cover again and lit the pilot again. I tried taking off the cover, disconnecting everything, and letting it sit for 8 hours. Basically the Honeywell Electronic Gas Water Heater Controllers are crap (so far). Getting some hugs and kisses from the wife. So this is the only site I could find regarding this stupid gas valve!!! Maybe it should be Teflon coated if that interaction is suspect? Right, my tank is just over 2 years old the number of posts here, Honeywell would do well to consider a recall and redesign. The water heater would not work properly right out of the box. Got a 7 blink code which cleared to a 1 blink normal code after a few minutes. I turned it back down but now the machine is offended or something and wont work at all. My unit is a Kenmore, bought at OSH New Years day 2012. A plumber I know told me he has replaced dozens of these exact same units. Thats what this sounds like and shorting across it is perfectly OK. On Thursday plubmer came over to install the worthless Whirlpool 40 gallon piece of junk water heater. Tried removing the cover, unplugging 3 wire plug, and then lighting pilot again. I wish I had known this a few months ago. Is the designer still alive? It took a while but I hope it is sufficient to extend the life of the valve. Also, is the setpoint continuously variable as the dial is turned, or are the labeled settings stepped and all there are? It is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. For sales or technical inquiries about our products please select the type of item (s) you are interested in from the pull down category list shown below. Its not very complicated, really. Repeat these steps with the new gas valve. F Im so mad I want to shoot the prick who cornered the market on Honeywells crap. I have to buy parts, shipping and all. The thing is less then a week old!! I replaced it in a couple of hours and we were back in business. I am thinking about replacing it with a propane tankless. Then once it started running went to one blink. NOW MY WIFE WILL THINK IM SOMEONE IMPORTANT. So far, so good but was looking up things that could go wrong and found this page. Loreleafs procedure (5 January 2016) worked for me remove cover and short 2 pins with a screwdriver. Thank you Pioneers, Thank you Tyler. So far, this one has continued to work for a while I can not tell yet if they have actually fixed them though. My replacement valve had the same stainless steel cap as the old one, so will likely develop the same scaling. Turns out painting and cleaning the basement tripped a code 7 flashes. Now, for the praise! When I came back to check the water heater, I saw that the light was flashing normally. I dis-assembled the cover and the circuit board, then tested the actual gas valve by itself using a AA battery and jumper wires (mentioned elsewhere above earlier) ( negative (-) to the bottom of V and positive to left upper pin of V. So I got no click (but supposed to get a click). Is there any non-Honeywell valve that we can use in place of the Edsel we have now? Everything else worked as previously described. I tried the simple unplug and reset for 10 minutes and plug back in it worked awesome. I will clean up the old unit when removed and keep as spare. Oh and THISis what it looks like in the little window when your BURNERSare running (water heater is heating). If that is the case, recommend that you do not short the leads as it can cause internal damage. Rheem, to their credit, is overnight shipping a new sensor to replace the bad one in the new Home Depot Rheem that I installed yesterday. I followed the the rest of the instructions and got my 1-flash Normal Operation going and the heater is working properly now. Praise GOD. I got the dreaded 4 blink on a 3 year old water heater that had to have the control module replaced after the first year. First Responder. Anyhow, the next day I got the part. I have a GE water heater with a blower motor on top. Thank you Cranky Tenants and Dave Boone! This happened again a day or 2 later and again, after a short while, the status led reverted back from the 5-flash red to the 1-flash blue. It should not be necessary to completely empty the tank unless it is just full of sediment and you have never tried to flush it out before. Theres a little white plug where wires connect to board; tug wires directly away from board to unplug. It takes a T-15 screwdriver to remove the cover. Still no flashes. I touched the two top ones. Definitely will be draining sediment as a preventive measure later this week. the gas did shut off but it was drained for a vinegar cleaning. I must say the internet is a life saver for problems like these. Removal of the 3 pin wire to the control board and pilot restart did Not work for me with the Honeywell White Light Gas Valve. I think this Honeywell valve is pretty flakey. Youre freaking awesome! Light the pilot light as normal. Since my valve is under warranty, I will be replacing it. I spoke with Whirlpool (Honeywell gas valve) and they sent me a new valve. Yes my 20 month old envirotemp gas water (purchased from lowes) heater quit and is displaying 4 flashes of death . any help would be welcome. Installed it today. Manual 34-00013EF-06. I had the unit replaced. okay at this point with circuit boardhave no clue..please step by step for dummies pleasecannot remove it from whitish housing.appears a screw of some sort and also something that looks like glass attaching to it? I was told to flush the water heater 2xs a year with vinegar to remove sediment, which i did have ALOT..Thanks. Well, I am having issues again and think I may have just screwed myself. I suspect it to be calcium and salts. Worked for me waiting to see if burner shuts off Search the page for How to un-fault a controller. Probably had sediment on bottom and overworked it. Got 7 blinking lights burner came on and back to 1 blinking light. The cover on the Water Heaters gas valve is removed by a single flat head screw at the bottom. My hat is off to you David, I followed you instruction and it clear the fault and is now heating my water. Even though there are 4 higher settings! The Jaccuzi is available at Lowes. While I didnt have any leaks, I was sweating bullets during the testing and first fire up of the furnace. Much obliged. Honeywell and Sears/Home Depot/etc. The only material needed is one short jumper or piece of wire. 37 sold. This house is on city water with a water-softener it shouldnt need flushing very often. To RaulDLCs 3/25/2015 post: I have NEVER had a thermostat unit fail in 35 years of owning houses. I was ready to take the circuit board into work and try to reprogram it through what appears to be a serial port (TX RX pins). However, the length and duration of self-correcting fault conditions rapidly grew more frequent and longer over a matter of days. These sensors, provide the fail-safe mechanism through which the, temperature control as well as water temperature. Youll save money and aggravation in the long term. But I just wanted to confirm is there no way to reset the 4 blink code for a newer, white light, unit? Pulled off the cover with the dial still on pilot position the pilot light died and the light didnt flash. Speaker wire. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. day installed it i had bad problems to lite, i called Co. they asked if a professional installed it, i told tech ive installed over 15 water heaters & never had this type of trouble, he kind of said that since im not a pro-with licence thats why its not lighting, i told him i didnt like this valve sytem & all 15 water with the old school red dial out lasted the 9 yr some worked till 12 years & why would i ever give $400 to install something i could do & i do know what Im doing just that this system not working at all, i got it 3 years & I got one of the lucky ones, the (2nd one)was built 07/20/2015 i got a call Fri 29th,16 my tenant said water heater stopped working & i had showed him how tom lite it in case im not around & it turns off, he tried many times, depress 1 1/2, 2 min, 3 min & nothing, i got a chance to look into it & i had assumed E-Z fix 5 min ill have it & running, wrong spent hour doing everything instructions had, i asked my tennat at what temp he had it on, he said a lil past the letyter (A) when i installed it i had told him never pass (A) i remember a friend who owns several homes (7) & he told me many nitemare stories of the Honeywell Valve status lite (poop)he was dealing with 7 faulty valves had to pay hotel 3-5 days while they ship parts, even then the water heater co. diagnosed problem wrong, he said a couple times they told him it was the thermopile that was causing pilot lite not to stay on, he waited for part, ordered the Valve although it had warranty but it didnt cover the wasted time, days & hotel for his tenants, but he some how found on his own that setting those types pass the letter (A) the water heater will over heat, thats whats going on with me, i checked everything spark good, pilot lights well but doesnt stay on & the status lite doesnt come on at all, its like its dead, so i called Co. tech guy told me oh thats an E-Z one & no brainner its your thermopile well let me tell my tenants 4 adults 3 teenagers of how E-Z theyll have it for 4 days without hot water you certified (DA=dumb ass)i still didnt feel good about that, i called my friend & my friend said ill bet you a $100 its going to be the thermo pile, call m back & have them send you new Valve & get on YouTube & sites to get help, these sites are extremely helpful, you save money, time, days waiting for part & most likely youll get wrong diagnosed, so Im gearing up & ready to get hot water for my tenants, its a rotten dirty shame that so many people have gotten ripped off by honeywell & no law suits for intentionally selling theyre valves to the water heater makers they too are at fault, at least those of us that can tinker with things are able to FIY i feel for the people who have get a licence person to install, then several months later have the valve burn out, call Co. then pro to install wrong part, wait more days for correct one ? If not, you can still try the MFR, but a web search for honeywell water heater valve also turned up several vendors. Dont take this for granted, make sure you do your part of manufacturers suggested periodic maintenance such as tank drainage, Anode rod inspection, etc to prevent future faults. So is there now way to reset the white light model? Fix Bypass with a 15k, 2 watt resistor, and no problem. (PSFlushing the tank as others have posted is sound advice to), YOU, MY FRIEND, ARE A FRICKING GENIUS IT WORKES. . Appreciate the guidance. I am getting NO Flash from the led light. Since waaaay too many folks have experienced this failure, and since it seems to be electronics related, and since Honeywell is sending out replacements willy nilly and asking for return of the defective valves, I suggest that the true culprit may be that some bonehead just programmed the software at too low a critical temperature. My Family thanks you for the tip to reset the Honeywell Gas control valve. The pilot stays lit. For more information forwardthinking.honeywell.com Home and Building Technologies 1985 Douglas Drive North Golden Valley, MN 55422 . The clips stay on the wires. 4:Follow directions to lite the pilot-light. I am now one of the afflicted and would not like to have to go through this every 18 months. The wires for the main burner valve solenoid had not broken. An honorable mention here needs to go to Bob Robeson, who posted here as well, but it was his original post I found on waterheatertimer.org that set me onto a pathway of searching for another option after I was thoroughly disgusted with Sears/Kenmore Service, which would be more accurately described as Sales based on their approach to my concern. I pay $30 for overnight shipping for a replacement unit. I dont know this for a fact but the low setting should be somewhere around 100F. The new honeywell gas valve is completely electronic. For sure theyre going to have a lot of unhappy customers. I saw some white crystals come out but not that bad. Plus the cost of the above repairs. Piezo Dynamic Series Sirens Data Sheet, Honeywell Home, Resideo Security Americas As the days moved on, it continued happening more frequently and each time the red 5-flash error condition persisted longer and longer before resetting itself. I replaced my gas valve and only had to pay the shipping and smell bad for two days. If they dont match the actual wire colors for whatever insane reason, notice which is which. I would like to add my experience with this hoping it may shed some light. In the meantime I figured the shutoff valve to the WH was not working then started to leak! Perhaps others with faulty valves may have begun their collapse in a similar fashion, but were not noticed until the hot water turned cold people dont usually babysit a water heater. Bought my Whirlpool at Lowes. Ive tried everything trying to reset it , although it seems the flame is on . Thank you , thank you, thank you all in particular thank you David Boone. I just ran enough hot water out to get it to call for heat again and it lit fine on its own. Thanks for taking the time to post this. They are the 3 thin metal posts that stick out beyond everything else in an upside down triangular V pattern. Good to know! Genius. Manufactured by Honeywell. my brand new kenmore water heater has a weird smell coming from it, its not really a gas smell ,at least I dont think it is ,anyways my question is.. Is it supposed to smell the first few days or should I b worried? The Thermopile already supplies the current necessary to open the gas valve! So I called and paid the $30 to get a new one delivered the day after Christmas. They said call anytime and they can help. The light and the whole board is powered by a Thermo-electric generator powered by the pilot light. COPY OF Honeywell Water Heater Gas Valve Instruction/ Spec. The bottom pin is ground ((-) on the battery)Connect the (-) negative of the battery there with a clip lead. At just 3 months old the second unit failed! Now, I urge CAUTION when performing this fix as, without a working pilot, you could accumulate an appreciable amount of gas and risk an explosion. I may have gotten lucky too. After just a couple of minutes the code changed to 1 and now I have hot water. What is top left pin and the top right pin you arereferring to, while holdingcircuit board still inside the controllerassembly and facing towards me which corner are youreferring to, can you please give me some details or a picture thatwould be great. But, dont buy a water heater from the DIY in any case. I bought a Rheem water heater from Home Depot, it had this Honeywell valve on it. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. I have a slight modification to make it even easier!!! There is no pilot, it just ignites completely as needed with electronic ignitor. Because of the shape of the plug, you wont be able to plug it in backwards, but its quicker if you dont have to try the wrong way to find that out. Yeah!!!! Basically, the minerals heat less efficiently than the water, so the water has to get hotter than necessary. This may help all. burners are on. Any way, the pilot fired up rather quickly and flashed one time every three seconds! For two years I would drain out 5 gallons of water every two months to remove sediment. light the pilot and you still get the 7 flashes; however the water heater kicks back on and gets back up to temperature and shuts off as normal and you will see that your light now only flashes 1 time every 3 or 4 seconds. Remove the ivory-colored plastic front of the gas valve from the back of the unit. Id rather spend money at some local cage, or boxing matches here in So. By the way, the 3 year warranty expired 3 week ago. oops I pressed the wrong key: not 170, but 70 degrees. No battery, no removing of circuit board, just a short jumper wire. Thanks to all the posts here!!! Select a Model: Gas Control Trade Replacement Valve. He removed the cover but did not remove any wires (he fixed it very quickly). Im trying this tomorrow morning. You can now release the knob and the pilot should stay on. Be sure the pilot stays on before continuing. The note is just a comment I know it really does not apply to your situation. I was wondering if anyone knew if this part is replaceable? This is really bad! They dont want to send any more parts until I pay someone to come look at it. You dont need the battery at all. 20 minutes and the above solution of shorting it to correct the error worked magic. I have 4 blinking lights. The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. Only 18 month old water heater and I too had the four flashes of death, with working pilot light. I checked the voltage from the thermopile: 750 millivolts with pilot light lit while holding in the button. I had issues let the unit sit and drain. Anyway, I bought that same heater (2 insulation) only a couple years ago. No, I dont know that you can buy just the circuit board. Contemplated telling my wife and child to go take a ride around the block while I finished it up, but was confident everything was solid and ready. The valve location is high enough on the tank that sediment likely wont interfere with its temperature sensing ability; 2. At this point mine lit the main burner and blinked 7 a few times then blinked 1 1 1 1. Little white plug stays with wire ribbon. All working fine now. I believe I was getting 7 flashes until turning burner on and in a short time the flashes went to normal 1 flash. 40 gal, nat gas, no external attachments. When the pilot is lit, it will only glow blue, and not look this intense. I called Honeywell, but they wouldnt tell me the engineers names. I bought the rheem propane water heater6 months ago now its giving me problem 2 blinks every 3 secondsTHERMOPILE voltage low. Said any time they shipped something it would be 10, 20, or 30 dollar charge. 1: Remove the cover (it just snaps on & off with out tools on mine), 2: Unplug the three wire connector on the top-back of the circuit-board (no need to remove it from the cover so no tools required). Direct Replacement: Gas Control Valve Kit (Natural Gas) Brand: AO Smith SKU: 100112336 ( 70) In Stock Get 297 Fri, Mar 3 Order by today, receive 297 by Friday VIEW REPLACEMENT Product Highlights - Natural Gas Description - I called my father-in-law and told him about it, he is a plumber and replaces this kind of valves all the time but he said he has never seen one that flashes any codes other than normal right out of the box Go figure!!! It was very difficult to flush out and I ended removing it by use of a shop-vac and small hose modified to get through the valve hole. I just wrapped a twist tie around the 2 posts on the right & replaced the cover to restart the pilot then removed it when all was well & done. No, Im not participating. * honeywell gas valve water, Executive summary: detected water hot event, gas valve work reset . Thanks to your solution I will have hot water until the replacement value arrives. I too will never buy another hot water heater with a Honeywell valve! With my method you do not need to remove it, but sometimes its hard to visualize what everyone is talking about if you have never seen it before. I followed the last paragraph instructions (what i did take off the cover.) and everything seems to be in working order again with one caveat: when I reattached the front cover with the 3-wire connector unplugged and lit the pilot, I got a 5-flash error (indicating that there was a sensor failure) rather than the 7-flash error. The thing is still under warranty for parts, but I have to pay shipping, and wait for it to come, and pay a plumber hundreds of dollars to install the fing thing. The 5 inlet pipe would NOT separate from the Gas Valve assembly, so I had to run up to Lowes and get a new inlet pipe (5 1/2) to connect to the new assembly. Product Support. No, No, No! did the light and turn the unit to hot and touched the other end of the speaker wire to the right upper of the V it fired up and reset. The dreaded 4 red flashes. One has a red mode indicator (the older one) and a white one. Land lord got a hot water heater last week because my old one was leaking. About to enter the fray and attempt the 4-blink DIY fix solution. SUPER FIX< SUPER POST. Awesome articles you post on your blog, i have shared this article on my facebook. Emptied tank and there wasnt much sediment. for labor. Thank you so much!!! I received the new valve and noticed a few differences. the side you see when it the board is in place. Thanks alot guys got mine up and running as well after taking the electronic crap out. Update your shipping location. Within a couple minutes it reverted to 1 flash, and is working fine. Thank you for you detailed instructions. Wish you had shown a pic of the screwdriver touching the 2 posts. So, again Sears says they need to send a repair guy out. Awesome! I got right on the phone to service again and the first person said they would send out another Gas Control Valve, this time no charge for the shipping. Not much of a DIYer am i but after reading about this scam Honeywell has going on about these modules i had to try this and besides how many more cold showers can one man take..My results? Thank you Tyler and all the responses. This whole thread is very interesting. Holy Crap DB! Clearly the valve controller is mis-designed. Gently wiggle out the housing. Im assuming that the old board just completely died. If it has now cleared. No luck. Turned the dial to low and it started heating. What you will do next is connect the (+) positive of the battery to the right top pin so your battery is across the bottom pin (-) and top right pin (+) you should hear the click of the main valve opening. Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Honeywell RTH6580WF Wi-Fi 7 Resetting #$%@!! The new valve seemed to act the same way except without the main burner lite, out , and relite. It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. Remember these guys deal with this everyday. 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